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Yeah ingat ingat na lang. Kasama sa biz yan eh....
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Thanks for the info.

dami ko ring natatanggap na ganyan pero I just ignore them.
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msarap ba ung siopao? hehe.. thanks for the info ghuys..
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naku, ako nga din, mukhang scammer yung naka-text ko kahapon...nakita daw niya dito yung contact details ko at mga ads ko. May inaalook na biz from Malaysia, networking daw...eh I asked for the details send niya sa email ko, eh hindi raw dapat magkita ng personal dahil may mga videos to show me. Hay naku, kung negosyante ka dapat kahit man lang sa email mai-pakita mo ang biz, di ba?
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great info... thanks for the heads up also.. there was a time my husband had an email from a (not sure if scammer) US based company saying they'll accept freelance jobs if you give them first a sample of your work, they included a task specification with the message. Basically they're asking for you to work muna bago ka nila i-hhire or kung ano mang future transactions that you'll have... i believe they send this to other people as well... anyway great post! Smile
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Grabe dapat talaga mag-ingat na tayo dami nang mga mangloloko
tnx nlng sa info .... Cool
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ATTENTION: TO ALL COMPUTER, COMPUTER PARTS AND ANY COMPUTER RELATED DEVICES COMPANY/DEALER/STORE/FREELANCER AND CONSULTANTS

SUBJECT: LATEST SCAM UPDATE

BEWARE OF David N. Barnedo!!!
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web site 1: www.ubi-japan.com
web site 2: www.ethnex.com

Merong scammer na naghahanap ng victim here sa community, ang style niya is mag tatayo daw siya ng call center, TELCO company blablabla. Makikipagkita siya sa isang lugar then after nung meeting nyo dun papauntahin ka niya sa bldg na inuupahan daw nila, and ang purpose nito ay para mapaniwala ka na talagang magtatayo siya ng business dun sa lugar. Nung time na pumunta ako ay kasalukuyang pinapalinis pa nga at merong mga guide para sa mga ikakabit na cubicle.

Ang stilo nito ay mag kwekwento siya ng na meron siyang business sa Japan, USA and etc and mag papangap ng CEO. Nasa control daw niya ang 93% ng TELCO (Prepaid cards unlimited calling) sa Japan and gusto nya dalin dito sa pinas ang unlimited phone calling (mobile to phone and mobile to mobile) nag mag papaikot ikot kayo dun hanggang aalukin ka ng partnership o kukuhanan ka ng order.

Nag meet kami twice. Nakikipag deal siya sa akin ng items and aabutin ng almost 2.2M. Ang kaso eh umiiwas siya sa usapang bayaran or dun sa point na pupunta sa usapan kung pano siya mag babayad. Niresearch ko yung website nya, www.ubi-japan.com, and look wala kahit isang link ang gumagana and walang contact info and print screen lang at pinagdugtong dugtong at pinag tagpi tagpi. And here's the thing, sa pag imbestiga ko yung logo nya is kinuha lang nya sa website na www.ubiworldtv.com and ewan ko lang kung san nya nai-print screen ung sa body ng page, hinahanap ko nga eh.

Company name nya daw is Universal Broadband,Inc. and physically located sa Japan. Me partners daw siya sa USA and Europe. Kamaganak din daw nya CEO ng PLDT and nakausap na daw nya ang Nextel and Globe for partnership. Paiikutin nya ang usapan at palalabasin nya na orderin na lahat computers na dual core, and ayaw nya ng second hand para pag nalugi daw eh madali ibenta sa Japan or kung san man. Ipapaunawa niya sa iyo and kukunin ang loob mo na gusto na niyang masimulan agad ang negosyo pero wag mo siyang tataasan ng presyo dahil mahihirapan siya mag explain at maglabas ng pera sa mga investors. Sympre pa, iisipin mo na ang lead na ito ay kukuha na.

Bibigyan ka niya ng Go! Signal na ipadala mo na lahat ng computers dun sa bldg na uupahan niya. Guys ito ang trick, merong building na uupahan and walang laman pero me mga taong nag lilinis nun na inupahan nya para mag mukang totoo na gagawin nga nyang call center pero pag dala mo ng mga computers dun bigla na lang maglalaho si David N. Barnedo kasama ng mga ITEMS mo. Ayaw nya mag downpayment and walang check na ibibigay sayo, ipapadinig lang nya sa inyo na tinatanong niya asawa nya kung nagbayad na ng check dun sa cubicle, etc mga bayarin then sasagot ng Oo. And tuwing hihingi ka ng check sa kanya para sa payment ng mga items mo wala siyang ibibigay bagkus paiikutin nanaman niya ang usapan, papalalabasin nya na pumartner ka sa kanya and baka ito na ang break mo hanggang lumayo na naman usapan na kukuha ka ng check sa kanya. Kaya talagang nalaman ko na na scam talaga to. Imagine nakipagkita ba naman sakin sa Jollibee nung una then walang inorder. Pangalawa dun sa site pinakain ba naman ako ng siopao at juice. Ikaw palang ang unang nakagawa sakin nyan na nagpapangap na CEO sira.

David N. Barnedo ang mali mo sinama mo asawa mo sa ikalawang pagkikita natin eh namukaan ko siya and nakita ko na siya sa balita sa TV na sinasampal-sampal sa kulungan nung nagreklamo sa kanya ng staffa.

Guys, mag-ingat kayo dahil talagang kapani-paniwala siya magsalita!

Based on my experiences ang mga CEO hindi makikipag usap sayo dahil trabaho ng business development department yun. Ang tagabili ng requirements is purchasing department. Kung meron kang CEO sigurado malaking company yun and organize, and kung malaking company yun for sure meron silang pang fancy dinner meeting hindi siopao and juice!!!

MESSAGE FROM THE REAL CEO FOR David N. Barnedo:
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So isa lang masasabi ko sayo David N. Barnedo, Nice try!!!!

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Mr. scammer thanks nga pala sa Siopao and Juice ha gumastos ka pa kaso walang ROI wohahahaha… sira ang cash-flow. Hindi mo nagging investment ang siopao and juice, yet… nagging liabilities pa. Mr. scammer, hindi kasi sa business plan umiikot ang negosyo, dapat meron kang Risk Management Plan, Business Continuity Plan and mga advisors such as attorneys, accountants and consultants para maging successful ang scamming business mo hehehe… Always remember, it’s not what you have, it is what you know! And that MONEY is power! Yet, let the money work for you!


I was once a victim of this type of scammer. Talagang super sakit ng nangyari. I lost almost all of my hard-earned money. Ang masakit pa, ipinangutang ko pa yung iba para lang matugunan ko yung requirement nila. And it's so stupid of me na tanggapin yung check nila. Ang nasa isip ko kasi nuon, hindi naman siguro nila ako lolokohin since sa mismong bahay nila ko diniliber yung item. After waiting for the check to clear, talbog ang check! Ang masakit pa nun, stolen check pala yung inisyu nila sa akin. Syempre the next thing is to go to their so called house. Nakipag coordinate pa ako sa mga authorities to conduct raid sa lugar nila. Only to find out, wala raw nakatirang ganong tao run! Ano ba yun, para akong namagic! Tapos after the raid, guess what the policemen asked from me? They asked me to give them money for their effort sa nasabing operation.. Hay naku po. Sabi ko sa kanila, ako na nga kako ang naloko, hihingan pa nila ako ng pera. Sabi nila sa akin, SOP daw talaga yun kasi di naman daw subsidise ng gobyerno ang gastos sa mga ganoong operation. Kaya from then, nagkaroon na rin ako ng phobia na manghingi ng assistance sa mga may kapangyarihan.

Kaya po sa lahat din pati ng mga makakadeal ko dito sa sulit, sana po maintindihan nyo ako kung bakit puros cash basis lang ako. I learned it through the hard way.

Be alert always and don't simply give your trust to the person that you are dealing with.

Thanks and I hope this thing will never ever happen to anyone of you. Have a great day!

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hay naku marami pa ring naloloko ng mga scammer..

ilang beses na may natanggap ako na text, email marami na, ni isa wala akong pinatulan, simple kasi wala ako pera and its too much good to be true...
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great posts....
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babalatan ko ng buhay scammers pag nahuli namin hehehe
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thanks for the info ..

ma sobrang ingat dapat talaga po tayo .. hehe
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Do not believe everything posted here! Esp. the ones posted about Mr. David N. Barnedo!!!!!! Exclamation


So what can you say about this: http://alexmaximo.com/2007/08/scam/

Nice!!!
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Very informative.. Thanks for posting this topic. It would help us a lot in any ways. Smile
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from 419eaters

Please remember that these people are CRIMINALS and should be treated as such.

Under no circumstances must you enter into any communications with these people unless you feel you are adequately prepared to deal with them.

Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES give them ANY real private information about yourself. These guys may appear dumb and clueless, but I suspect it wouldn't be so funny if you were to come face-to-face with one of them, although I'll be the first to admit the chances against this happening are astronomical - unless of course you are dumb enough to fly over to meet them in person, in which case you need to be sectioned ASAP!

The tips below are for INFORMATION ONLY. 419eater.com cannot be held responsible for what you decide to do with the information.

UPDATE: Newcomers to scambaiting can now join our MENTOR programme where experienced scambaiters will help you with tips, tricks and advice.



Question.
How do I get a 419 scammer to contact me, I'd love to get stuck into this scam baiting sport?!

Answer.
Well, you are probably one of the lucky ones who haven't received any contact from them yet! I find the best place to harvest scammers is Internet guest books. Open up a Search Engine, such as Google or Altavista and type in a search phrase like the following (not including the speech marks), "guestbook +guymen +mugu" this should bring up many sites containing guest books. Pop over to maybe 10 - 25 of the guestbooks and enter some brief details, of course not forgetting to enter your scam harvesting email address! Within a few days (sometimes a lot less) you should start receiving your invitations to share millions!

Note: I DO NOT advocate guestbook spamming. If you do decide to place your email address onto a guestbook to harvest scammers, please enter something like 'nice site', 'great work' or words to that effect. Remember that the guestbook belongs to a innocent party. I always take time to look through a site if I intend to leave anything in a guestbook.



Question.
How do I contact the scammers without using my real email address?

Answer.
Well, there are plenty of web based free email services you can use. Of course the first one the comes to mind is Hotmail, although I've noticed some scammers don't like to converse with Hotmail account holders. Google Mail (Gmail) is another very good webmail service. Just do a search for "free email" or "free webmail" in Google and you'll find plenty to satisfy you.



Question.
My friend got a 419 email in his Inbox, can I reply to a scammer even if the initial email was not sent to my email address?

Answer.
Yes! They really don't care who you are, as long as they think they may be able to screw you out of a few grand! If you have a scammer email, just remember to remove the original addressees email address for the body text before you reply.



Question.
The scammer wants to send me (fake) documents via fax, but I don't want to use my real fax. What can I do?

Answer.
You have two choices here. You can either bluff your way through it and tell them your fax is broken, or even better, sign up to a free fax service. Personally I use Efax.com. It's free to sign up, and free to receive faxes, though you will have to pay to send a fax. You get your own unique fax number and when the scammer faxes you it arrives in your mailbox as a email attachment. To view the attachment you will have to install a small program (provided free by Efax). Double-click on the attachment to view the fax.



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What if the scammer wants to talk on the telephone?

Answer.
Tell them that as a youngster your hearing was damaged after a serious illness. Tell them you're deaf. Personally I use the deafness excuse, but follow it up with a line such as "I am able to use a TextPhone". "If you have access to a TextPhone then I will be able to speak to you, otherwise communication will have to be via email only". Of course it is extremely unlikely that the scammers have a TextPhone (A TextPhone basically lets people type messages to each other across a standard phone line) so that should get you off the hook. Even though they won't have a TextPhone, your kind offer to speak to them via one will ease their mind that you are at least making an effort with them.

You can of course sign up for a voicemail account, though of course this would make the communication one way. This is good as for one , they won't be able to talk to you in person, and two, it costs them money for the overseas call. Again, for voicemail services in your area, do a Internet search. Two recommended US based voicemail services are www.k7.net and www.J2.com both of which also combine a fax service, all totally free (as I write!). If you want a UK based set-up, then I recommend www.yac.co.uk which is a great free voicemail/fax service.

Another trick you can try is to have scammer calls anonymously forwarded to your mobile phone (or your landline if you are feeling brave). I use a service called FlexTel (www.flextel.com). You get provided with a new telephone number which you can pass onto your scammer. He dials the number and then this is anonymously forwarded to your real mobile/landline number. You get to make the scammer pay a small fortune on international calls, and the scammer gets even more convinced that he has found a real victim!


hehehe. nakakatuwa, meron pa silang mentor program


thanks for your very helpful information... hehehe... really appreciated... hehehe...
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thanks for the info.. Smile
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