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Base sa Articles 353,354,355 ng Revised Penal Code, libel is any imputation of a crime or defect etc, real or imagined?

May mga gusto rin sana akong ipost na names or emails ng mga scammers or spammers sa blogs ko, pero natatakot ako na baka magkaroon ng leeway sila na kasuhan ako ng libel.

Ano po sa palagay ninyo?
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maganda huwag mo na baka nga gagantihan ka nila.. paninirang puri din kasi yun. dapat may sapat tayong evidence laban sa kanila
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i think kapag totoo naman ang post mo dito sa forum about the scammer. why not?experience ko rin kasi nag post ako dito sa thread na ito about my client na nag bounce ang check tapos nagtatago. after niya mabasa ang forum ko. nagparamdam na at tinakot pa akong idedemanda dahil sinira ko daw ang reputation niya. Ang purpose naman ng thread na ito is to warn other supplier na huwag magtiwala sa mga manloloko at tumatakbong client na may utang. I need some suggestions about this also.
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hindi naman cguro basat totoong scammer lang sila ha baka kasi maya hindi namn totoo pde ka talagang kasuhan ng libel paninirang puri...
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The problem is baka naman hindi rin totoo yung binibigay nila name or address. Pero for me ok lang i post. If that person will do something para gumanti hindi ka dapat matakot.
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meron po ba talagang ganyan? makakasama po sa negosyo ng bawat isa yan... sana po ma solusyunan... thanks po be happy...
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you can do it if you have enough proofs na scammer nga yun
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hindi naman po siguro libelous kung may concrete evidence po tayo ng pagiging scammer nila..
sana mahuli na sila :0
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mybahay posted on July 25, 2009 08:50AM
Base sa Articles 353,354,355 ng Revised Penal Code, libel is any imputation of a crime or defect etc, real or imagined?

May mga gusto rin sana akong ipost na names or emails ng mga scammers or spammers sa blogs ko, pero natatakot ako na baka magkaroon ng leeway sila na kasuhan ako ng libel.

Ano po sa palagay ninyo?

Kaya nga po may korte tayo, ito ang magdedsisyon kung ano ang nararapat.  Wala po tayong karapatang paratangan ng scammer ang isang tao, kahit maging tutoo man siya o hindi kundi ang isang korte lang, doon nyo po dalhin ang lahat ng ebidensya nyo at kapag sinintensyahan po yan ng korte, doon na po pwede nyong tawagin ang tao, dahil sentensyado na ito.  Kapag itinuloy nyo yan at gusto kayong pagkaperahan ng lumoko sa inyo mas malaki ang mawawala sa inyo, the best thing po ay sampahan ninyo ng kaso.
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http://www.chanrobles.com/revisedpenalcodeofthephilippinesbook2.htm

Title Thirteen

CRIMES AGAINST HONOR

Chapter One
LIBEL

Section One. â Definitions, forms, and punishment of this crime.

Art. 353. Definition of libel. â A libel is public and malicious imputation of a crime, or of a vice or defect, real or imaginary, or any act, omission, condition, status, or circumstance tending to cause the dishonor, discredit, or contempt of a natural or juridical person, or to blacken the memory of one who is dead.

Art. 354. Requirement for publicity. â Every defamatory imputation is presumed to be malicious, even if it be true, if no good intention and justifiable motive for making it is shown, except in the following cases:

1. A private communication made by any person to another in the performance of any legal, moral or social duty; and

2. A fair and true report, made in good faith, without any comments or remarks, of any judicial, legislative or other official proceedings which are not of confidential nature, or of any statement, report or speech delivered in said proceedings, or of any other act performed by public officers in the exercise of their functions.

Art. 355. Libel means by writings or similar means. â A libel committed by means of writing, printing, lithography, engraving, radio, phonograph, painting, theatrical exhibition, cinematographic exhibition, or any similar means, shall be punished by prision correccional in its minimum and medium periods or a fine ranging from 200 to 6,000 pesos, or both, in addition to the civil action which may be brought by the offended party.

Art. 356. Threatening to publish and offer to present such publication for a compensation. â The penalty of arresto mayor or a fine from 200 to 2,000 pesos, or both, shall be imposed upon any person who threatens another to publish a libel concerning him or the parents, spouse, child, or other members of the family of the latter or upon anyone who shall offer to prevent the publication of such libel for a compensation or money consideration.

Art. 357. Prohibited publication of acts referred to in the course of official proceedings. â The penalty of arresto mayor or a fine of from 20 to 2,000 pesos, or both, shall be imposed upon any reporter, editor or manager or a newspaper, daily or magazine, who shall publish facts connected with the private life of another and offensive to the honor, virtue and reputation of said person, even though said publication be made in connection with or under the pretext that it is necessary in the narration of any judicial or administrative proceedings wherein such facts have been mentioned.

Art. 358. Slander. â Oral defamation shall be punished by arresto mayor in its maximum period to prision correccional in its minimum period if it is of a serious and insulting nature; otherwise the penalty shall be arresto menor or a fine not exceeding 200 pesos.

Art. 359. Slander by deed. â The penalty of arresto mayor in its maximum period to prision correccional in its minimum period or a fine ranging from 200 to 1,000 pesos shall be imposed upon any person who shall perform any act not included and punished in this title, which shall cast dishonor, discredit or contempt upon another person. If said act is not of a serious nature, the penalty shall be arresto menor or a fine not exceeding 200 pesos.

Section Two. â General provisions

Art. 360. Persons responsible. â Any person who shall publish, exhibit, or cause the publication or exhibition of any defamation in writing or by similar means, shall be responsible for the same.

The author or editor of a book or pamphlet, or the editor or business manager of a daily newspaper, magazine or serial publication, shall be responsible for the defamations contained therein to the same extent as if he were the author thereof.

The criminal and civil action for damages in cases of written defamations as provided for in this chapter, shall be filed simultaneously or separately with the court of first instance of the province or city where the libelous article is printed and first published or where any of the offended parties actually resides at the time of the commission of the offense: Provided, however, That where one of the offended parties is a public officer whose office is in the City of Manila at the time of the commission of the offense, the action shall be filed in the Court of First Instance of the City of Manila, or of the city or province where the libelous article is printed and first published, and in case such public officer does not hold office in the City of Manila, the action shall be filed in the Court of First Instance of the province or city where he held office at the time of the commission of the offense or where the libelous article is printed and first published and in case one of the offended parties is a private individual, the action shall be filed in the Court of First Instance of the province or city where he actually resides at the time of the commission of the offense or where the libelous matter is printed and first published: Provided, further, That the civil action shall be filed in the same court where the criminal action is filed and vice versa: Provided, furthermore, That the court where the criminal action or civil action for damages is first filed, shall acquire jurisdiction to the exclusion of other courts: And, provided, finally, That this amendment shall not apply to cases of written defamations, the civil and/or criminal actions which have been filed in court at the time of the effectivity of this law.

Preliminary investigation of criminal action for written defamations as provided for in the chapter shall be conducted by the provincial or city fiscal of the province or city, or by the municipal court of the city or capital of the province where such action may be instituted in accordance with the provisions of this article.

No criminal action for defamation which consists in the imputation of a crime which cannot be prosecuted de oficio shall be brought except at the instance of and upon complaint expressly filed by the offended party. (As amended by R.A. 1289, approved June 15, 1955, R.A. 4363, approved June 19, 1965).

Art. 361. Proof of the truth. â In every criminal prosecution for libel, the truth may be given in evidence to the court and if it appears that the matter charged as libelous is true, and, moreover, that it was published with good motives and for justifiable ends, the defendants shall be acquitted.

Proof of the truth of an imputation of an act or omission not constituting a crime shall not be admitted, unless the imputation shall have been made against Government employees with respect to facts related to the discharge of their official duties.

In such cases if the defendant proves the truth of the imputation made by him, he shall be acquitted.

Art. 362. Libelous remarks. â Libelous remarks or comments connected with the matter privileged under the provisions of Article 354, if made with malice, shall not exempt the author thereof nor the editor or managing editor of a newspaper from criminal liability.

Chapter Two
INCRIMINATORY MACHINATIONS

Art. 363. Incriminating innocent person. â Any person who, by any act not constituting perjury, shall directly incriminate or impute to an innocent person the commission of a crime, shall be punished by arresto menor.

Art. 364. Intriguing against honor. â The penalty of arresto menor or fine not exceeding 200 pesos shall be imposed for any intrigue which has for its principal purpose to blemish the honor or reputation of a person.
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tama.. dapat maglagay na lang kayo ng clue.. huwag nyo na lang lagay full details nya.,.
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mybahay posted on July 25, 2009 08:50AM
Base sa Articles 353,354,355 ng Revised Penal Code, libel is any imputation of a crime or defect etc, real or imagined?

May mga gusto rin sana akong ipost na names or emails ng mga scammers or spammers sa blogs ko, pero natatakot ako na baka magkaroon ng leeway sila na kasuhan ako ng libel.

Ano po sa palagay ninyo?

i have ongoing criminal estafa case. i still love the philippines because their case is 1 year old already, and my clients can say anything they want, they will never get a single centavo of the money they paid me.

they keep posting things like this: http://sulit.com.ph/1535384. but that is all they can do,nothing else. they will never see their money again.

in the philippines, you can get away with anything.

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In a court of law, just about anywhere, you are presumed innocent until proven guilty. Let's just see what will happen to your case, and I hope it will be resolved soon.
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mybahay posted on July 25, 2009 08:50AM
Base sa Articles 353,354,355 ng Revised Penal Code, libel is any imputation of a crime or defect etc, real or imagined?

May mga gusto rin sana akong ipost na names or emails ng mga scammers or spammers sa blogs ko, pero natatakot ako na baka magkaroon ng leeway sila na kasuhan ako ng libel.

Ano po sa palagay ninyo?

uso naman magpost nyan lalo na sa multiply. scammers, joy reserver, bogus buyers kiver saka since bogus sila at mahihirap pano pa sila magdedemanda. saka ang dali dali burahin nyan sa net. eh kung ako sau creat another acount from differnt site etc using other names blog about them kung talgang galit na galit ka
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Ok lang yan. Basta ba kaya mong patunayang scammers nga sila e, bakit ka matatakot sa libel.
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kung convicted hindi...pero kung
walang ebidensya mahirap na
malay ba diba? eh yung magkakakilala
nga ng personal di naman sure sa
kakilala nila ng 100%
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czzaaarrrr posted on August 2, 2009 11:51PM
Ok lang yan. Basta ba kaya mong patunayang scammers nga sila e, bakit ka matatakot sa libel.

naalala ko tuloy dito ang isang show dati sa tv
Pagmay katwiran Ipaglaban mo
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jameswalterhanleycsic posted on August 2, 2009 11:37PM
mybahay posted on August 2, 2009 02:39AM
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In a court of law, just about anywhere, you are presumed innocent until proven guilty. Let's just see what will happen to your case, and I hope it will be resolved soon.

those people suing me will never see a single centavo of the money they paid me! one year already and nothing happened! yes, we have bribed my other clients to not sue me, and now we are trying to bribe certain officials to drop the case. i love the philippines, because money really talks here.

Sir, I dont want to misjudge you but on what you said that "you bribed your other clients" and were trying "to bribe certain officials" to drop your case and "you love our country because money talks here" You're insulting us on our own country! How dare you say that! I hope you will eat what you say and you will be punished on what you did to my fellow Filipinos! emoticon
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it appears he's guilty as charged by virtue of his admission.

however, it's really sad that the courts here are so slow.
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mybahay posted on August 3, 2009 06:39AM
it appears he's guilty as charged by virtue of his admission.

however, it's really sad that the courts here are so slow.

if i am guilty,then why am i free to continue my office and immigration consultant business Webster's International? and why am i still not declared guilty after years of the criminal estafa case filed by my clients? because i am innocent!!!
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