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posted October 9, 2011 03:28PM
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Christ Is Everything! Everything that ever was, is, or shall be is found in Christ! He is the very Creator, Sustainer, And Almighty God Of The Universe.

You, who is He?


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posted October 9, 2011 03:37PM
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Christhood - the state of being the Christ, the anointed one of God
posted October 9, 2011 03:41PM
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Christhood - the state of being the Christ, the anointed one of God


Ok! Fine...

posted October 9, 2011 04:51PM
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he is the only one way for our souls salvation....
posted October 9, 2011 04:56PM
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Jesus Christ the messiah, is both my Lord and My God
posted October 9, 2011 04:57PM
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repairman1018 posted on October 9, 2011 04:51PM
he is the only one way for our souls salvation....


Ok, Fine.




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georgeteodoro posted on October 9, 2011 04:56PM
Jesus Christ the messiah, is both my Lord and My God


Ok. positive pa rin.


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posted October 31, 2011 03:46PM
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Christ possessed two identities, two capacities. Jesus was both God and man. He could act in his capacity as God. He could act in the capacity of man. He could speak as God and he could speak as man. As a man he said, "I thirst." As God he could say to the blind man or to the leper, "I will, be thou clean, " without any reverence to being deity. In him were two genders, divine and human. Gender, as used here, does not refer to sexual differences but to differences of class or category of being. He occupied two classes, the only one who ever did. He was God and man, God manifest in flesh (1 Timothy 3:16).

posted October 31, 2011 04:28PM
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Dios por mio.

I'm not touching this with a ten foot pole. Screw it. Too late.

Before "The Kardashians", the one good thing that came out of Armenia was that they were the first state to adopt Christianity as the state religion.

Who is this man (Jesus) that we.......called Christians (?) Forgot the saying or the name of the Armenian king who said something like this.
posted October 31, 2011 05:06PM
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Dios por mio.

I'm not touching this with a ten foot pole. Screw it. Too late.

Before "The Kardashians", the one good thing that came out of Armenia was that they were the first state to adopt Christianity as the state religion.

Who is this man (Jesus) that we.......called Christians (?) Forgot the saying or the name of the Armenian king who said something like this.


Till I put thine enemies underneath thy feet.

posted October 31, 2011 06:29PM
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He is my Savior...My salvation

posted October 31, 2011 06:43PM
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He is my Savior...My salvation


Is Jesus the Father? Father is the Saviour, Is it not?

posted October 31, 2011 06:45PM
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Jesus is my lord and my savior

posted October 31, 2011 07:42PM
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Gemorat posted on October 31, 2011 06:43PM
elvega124 posted on October 31, 2011 06:29PM

He is my Savior...My salvation


Is Jesus the Father? Father is the Saviour, Is it not?

When Jesus was born, God became a father and Jesus Christ was the Son (Hebrews 1:5). God was never a Father in a procreative sense before Jesus was born. Malachi 2:10 asks, "have we not one Father?" Yes, we have one Father, God who created us. But God was not a Father in a procreative sense until Jesus Christ was born. Hebrews 1:5 clearly indicates this, "I will be to him a Father, he shall be to me a Son." There was no father-son relationship prior to the Lord's conception and birth. There was not, back in pre-Marian times a relationship between a father and a son, certainly not a divine father and a divine son as eternal persons. The Bible emphatically declares I will be to him a father, he shall be to me a son, a future prediction of a reciprocally exclusive relationship.

posted October 31, 2011 08:07PM
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Gemorat posted on October 31, 2011 06:43PM
elvega124 posted on October 31, 2011 06:29PM

He is my Savior...My salvation


Is Jesus the Father? Father is the Saviour, Is it not?

When Jesus was born, God became a father and Jesus Christ was the Son (Hebrews 1:5). God was never a Father in a procreative sense before Jesus was born. Malachi 2:10 asks, "have we not one Father?" Yes, we have one Father, God who created us. But God was not a Father in a procreative sense until Jesus Christ was born. Hebrews 1:5 clearly indicates this, "I will be to him a Father, he shall be to me a Son." There was no father-son relationship prior to the Lord's conception and birth. There was not, back in pre-Marian times a relationship between a father and a son, certainly not a divine father and a divine son as eternal persons. The Bible emphatically declares I will be to him a father, he shall be to me a son, a future prediction of a reciprocally exclusive relationship.


hmmmm....What about let us? a plural?

posted October 31, 2011 08:14PM
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Jesus is both Man and God
Jesus is God
Jesus is Not God the Father
Jesus is Not The Holy Spirit

The Father, The Son(Jesus Christ) and The Holy Spirit
The three persons are distinct yet coexist in unity, and are co-equal, co-eternal


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posted October 31, 2011 08:16PM
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Jesus is both Man and God
Jesus is God
Jesus is Not God the Father
Jesus is Not The Holy Spirit

The Father, The Son(Jesus Christ) and The Holy Spirit
The three persons are distinct yet coexist in unity, and are co-equal, co-eternal


Co-equal The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit? In what sense?

posted October 31, 2011 08:20PM
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posted October 31, 2011 08:49PM
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Jesus was simultaneously both father and son, God and man. Thomas said "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28). My Lord,  the exalted man, Lord and master of the church. My God, the creator of the universe. Jesus said, "I and my Father are one" (John 10:30). Jesus was the man in whom God was embodied with a will, a personality, a mind, a heart with which to love. The disciples knew him as a man, they did not know him as God. They knew the way he looked at them, the way he smiled, the way he talked, the aspects of his personality.

posted October 31, 2011 09:11PM
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Gemorat posted on October 31, 2011 08:16PM
hotbenetton posted on October 31, 2011 08:14PM

Jesus is both Man and God
Jesus is God
Jesus is Not God the Father
Jesus is Not The Holy Spirit

The Father, The Son(Jesus Christ) and The Holy Spirit
The three persons are distinct yet coexist in unity, and are co-equal, co-eternal


Co-equal The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit? In what sense?


in attributes, power, nature and glory.

posted October 31, 2011 09:20PM
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Christology, the study of Who Jesus Really Is, reveals him to be a man who actually lived on this earth. Jesus was the "historical figure," a man with a definite place in human history. He has reached and occupies the highest place any creature has ever reached, the right hand place. That man will ultimately be exalted to the highest place in all the universe. Now he is just below the majesty in the heavens, or as he put it, "at the right hand of power." When Jesus is exalted to his ultimate place, the very throne itself, he has promised to take us with him and to share all his achievements with us (Psalm 110:1, Isaiah 53:12, Revelation 3:21). The glory he has, he will share with us. The honor he has, he will share with us. The position he has, he will share with us. The spoils he earned by his suffering, he will divide with the strong. Jesus is God in flesh. That is a glorious message. He is also a man, and that full message surpasses everything. It deals with creation, why and how God created us. It deals with the whole plan of redemption— how we are redeemed. It deals with all that God foresaw and all that he predestinated. It deals with our eternal reward. It deals with the ultimate place of the child of God in heaven. The message of who Jesus is, and all that he is, is absolutely central to everything Christians believe. For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus (1 Timothy 2:5). It is a man who is our mediator, the man Christ Jesus. He is the mediator of the better covenant found in the New Testament. The Bible says the mediator is not the mediator of one but God is one.

posted October 31, 2011 09:24PM
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Gemorat posted on October 31, 2011 08:16PM
hotbenetton posted on October 31, 2011 08:14PM

Jesus is both Man and God
Jesus is God
Jesus is Not God the Father
Jesus is Not The Holy Spirit

The Father, The Son(Jesus Christ) and The Holy Spirit
The three persons are distinct yet coexist in unity, and are co-equal, co-eternal


Co-equal The Father the Son and the Holy Spirit? In what sense?


in attributes, power, nature and glory.

 

  1. If all three are equally Co-Equal, why does Jesus Christ have a God, yet the Father is never said to have a God?
  2. If the Trinity is true, how is that Jesus Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirit, but is the Son of God the Father?
  3.  Why in the dozens of Scriptural discussions regarding the unity of Jesus with God His Father is the Holy Spirit of God NOT included?
  4. Jesus had ALL power and ALL authority and ALL judgment in heaven and earth.  Were these things the natural possessions of Jesus seeing that He is supposedly a third equal part of this trinity?  
  5. Jesus Christ will be SUBJECT to God His Father for all eternity (See I Cor. 15:24-28). Where are we told that the Father will be subject to Jesus Christ for all eternity?   And, of course, the Holy Spirit is not even mentioned in this discussion in I Cor. 15.

"But I am telling you the truth.  It is expedient for you that I may be coming away, for if I should not be coming away, THE CONSOLER WILL NOT BE COMING TO YOU." (John 16:7).

  1. Why? If the Holy Spirit as a third person of a triune trinity is what God's spirit really is, then WHY would Jesus have to depart before IT could come if IT is a separate individual FORM Jesus?
  2. Whatever is coming to comfort His Apostles after He is gone is something that is OF CHRIST that the Father GAVE TO HIM. Did the Father give to Christ the third person of the trinity?

"If anyone should be loving Me, he will be keeping My word, and My Father will be loving him, and WE SHALL BE COMING TO HIM AND MAKING AN ABODE WITH HIM" (John 14:23).

  1. And the Father ALSO will make His abode WITH US. How is this done? By the third person of the trinity? No. Christ said HE would be in us. And Christ said the Father would be also. But specifically HOW? And why must Jesus go away first?

  

  9.   Then who or what is this comforter, this 'parakletos'?  God's Word tells us. John is the only writer who uses this word 'parakletos.' So where else does he use it?  I John 2:1:

"My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.  And if any man sin, we have an advocate [Greek: PARAKLETOS!!!] with the Father, JESUS CHRIST the Righteous" (I John 2:1)!!!

 

It is JESUS CHRIST Who comes IN OUR FLESH. To deny that that it is JESUS CHRIST Who comes in our flesh is the spirit of ANTICHRIST.




Message appended on October 31, 2011 09:32PM
ecalmonte posted on October 31, 2011 08:49PM

Jesus was simultaneously both father and son, God and man. Thomas said "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28). My Lord,  the exalted man, Lord and master of the church. My God, the creator of the universe. Jesus said, "I and my Father are one" (John 10:30). Jesus was the man in whom God was embodied with a will, a personality, a mind, a heart with which to love. The disciples knew him as a man, they did not know him as God. They knew the way he looked at them, the way he smiled, the way he talked, the aspects of his personality.


How could be a Father and a Son be the same eternal? Is the Father the same as old as the Son?

Is not the Father and Jesus one in Spirit? 

Are they not  one Person? 




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