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Anong MLM ang sasalihan mo, sa walang pay-in or sa meron?

posted December 29, 2011 07:41AM
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Alam mo bang pwede kang sumali sa MLM ng wala kang nilalabas na pera kundi bumili lang ng bumili ng brand na ginagamit mo na?

posted December 29, 2011 07:49AM
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wala ata.. haha.. puro may pera na pay in muna..haha.. :P
posted December 29, 2011 07:58AM
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Wilg posted on December 29, 2011 08:49AM
wala ata.. haha.. puro may pera na pay in muna..haha.. :P


meron akong alam na walang pay-in.

posted December 29, 2011 12:58PM
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Mas ok ang may pay in.

Why?

1. The reason kung bakit at least 95% ng nagnenetwork ay nagfefail is,
mindset. Most who join have "poor" or "middle-class" mindsets.

Ang mga nagiging successful sa networking, at sa business for that matter,
ay yung mga taong may success mindset.

What will you expect kung walang pay-in ang magjojoin? Mostly, people
who don't have success mindsets.

2. Kung magbi-business ka lang din, mas maganda talaga kung may barrier
to entry. Pag free ang membership, eh di ibig sabihin karamihan pwedeng
pwedeng magjoin, means mas marami kang competition.

3. Waste of time to recruit/promote for something na wala ka namang makukuha
agad-agad.

Traditional business point of view: ang mga manufacturers, naghahanap sila
ng mga distributors, or wholesalers, para ma push ang products nila.

Hindi naman nila i-aallow kung sino-sino lang, dahil kung ginawa nila yun,
yung mga ok na mag wholesale at mag-distributor, ay matuturn off dahil hindi
sila magka-exclusivity, or wala silang advantage sa mga walang puhunan.

Marami pang reasons actually, pero biggest talaga yung mindset.
posted December 29, 2011 08:43PM
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Pero di mo ba nahahalata na yung pay-in mo ay mapupunta lamang sa mga uplines na nag-aabang ng mga bagong sasali?

Why do you have to pay membership fees for you to have the right to promote a product?

 

Just to site an example: Pinasok sa MLM ang isang cable subscription. Wala kang gagawin kundi mag-subscribe lang sa cable company and you are given the right to promote it. Then sa lahat ng mga nag-subscribe na naging downlines mo may kita ka. Don't you think this is possible? Kailangan mo pa ba ng reconditioning ng mindset just to get involve?

 

"Hindi naman nila i-aallow kung sino-sino lang, dahil kung ginawa nila yun,
yung mga ok na mag wholesale at mag-distributor, ay matuturn off dahil hindi
sila magka-exclusivity, or wala silang advantage sa mga walang puhunan."


Wala yata akong naaalalang MLM company na tumanggi sa mga gustong sumali, basta't may pera ka, di ka na tatanungin kung ano ang mindset mo? Kung ano-ano pa nga ang ipapangako sa iyo para lamang magbayad ka eh. Kaya yung kawawang pobre na nangutang pa, dahil nalasing na sa mga ipinangako ni upline, pagkatapos magpag-in di na mahagilap si recruiter.


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posted December 29, 2011 09:04PM
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microworkers posted on December 29, 2011 09:43PM

Pero di mo ba nahahalata na yung pay-in mo ay mapupunta lamang sa mga uplines na nag-aabang ng mga bagong sasali?

Why do you have to pay membership fees for you to have the right to promote a product?

 

Just to site an example: Pinasok sa MLM ang isang cable subscription. Wala kang gagawin kundi mag-subscribe lang sa cable company and you are given the right to promote it. Then sa lahat ng mga nag-subscribe na naging downlines mo may kita ka. Don't you think this is possible? Kailangan mo pa ba ng reconditioning ng mindset just to get involve?


 

agree! haha.. 




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iammarlo posted on December 29, 2011 01:58PM
Mas ok ang may pay in.

Why?

1. The reason kung bakit at least 95% ng nagnenetwork ay nagfefail is,
mindset. Most who join have "poor" or "middle-class" mindsets.

Ang mga nagiging successful sa networking, at sa business for that matter,
ay yung mga taong may success mindset.

What will you expect kung walang pay-in ang magjojoin? Mostly, people
who don't have success mindsets.

2. Kung magbi-business ka lang din, mas maganda talaga kung may barrier
to entry. Pag free ang membership, eh di ibig sabihin karamihan pwedeng
pwedeng magjoin, means mas marami kang competition.

3. Waste of time to recruit/promote for something na wala ka namang makukuha
agad-agad.

Traditional business point of view: ang mga manufacturers, naghahanap sila
ng mga distributors, or wholesalers, para ma push ang products nila.

Hindi naman nila i-aallow kung sino-sino lang, dahil kung ginawa nila yun,
yung mga ok na mag wholesale at mag-distributor, ay matuturn off dahil hindi
sila magka-exclusivity, or wala silang advantage sa mga walang puhunan.

Marami pang reasons actually, pero biggest talaga yung mindset.


may point ka naman.

pero naniniwala ako na isa ka sa member ng middle-class mindset. wag na ideny! haha!

 


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posted December 29, 2011 09:22PM
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One thing more, hindi lahat ng FREE ay walang kwenta. Sulit is a free membership site pero dalawang sasakyan ko, dito ko nabili sa kinita ko sa pag-advertise ng FREE!
posted December 29, 2011 09:27PM
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microworkers posted on December 29, 2011 10:22PM
One thing more, hindi lahat ng FREE ay walang kwenta. Sulit is a free membership site pero dalawang sasakyan ko, dito ko nabili sa kinita ko sa pag-advertise ng FREE!


TAMA!!!

haha pero hindi free ang sulit! nagbabayad ka ng internet noh! haha at kumikita sila sa mga click/hits ntn. kaya nagkakaroon sila ng mga ads. ang yaman na ng may ari nito! pero mas mayaman parin ako. i think so. =))

posted December 29, 2011 09:48PM
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Sulit is a FREE membership just what I said, Yung binabayad ko sa internet kay PLDT napupunta yun at hindi kay Sulit!
posted December 30, 2011 05:47PM
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microworkers posted on December 29, 2011 10:48PM
Sulit is a FREE membership just what I said, Yung binabayad ko sa internet kay PLDT napupunta yun at hindi kay Sulit!

posted December 30, 2011 09:01PM
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If you want to earn more than what you are earning, you have to change the way you think. If you want to be successful in life, grab every opportunity that comes along your way, big or small....
posted January 4, 2012 01:04AM
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PARR posted on December 29, 2011 10:04PM

may point ka naman.

pero naniniwala ako na isa ka sa member ng middle-class mindset. wag na ideny! haha!

 


If you define "middle-class mindset" by:

1. never being employed
2. always finding ethical leverage
3. worked to have financial freedom

Well maybe. But I can't find any other person
with the same "middle-class mindset" from people
in the middle-class I know of.

.....

from microworkers:

"Hindi naman nila i-aallow kung sino-sino lang, dahil kung ginawa nila yun,
yung mga ok na mag wholesale at mag-distributor, ay matuturn off dahil hindi
sila magka-exclusivity, or wala silang advantage sa mga walang puhunan."

>> Wala yata akong naaalalang MLM company na tumanggi


I guess you don't read very well.

I said for trad businesses.

 

Anyways, if you believe your business should be free for everyone to take,
then you don't put too much value in your own time.

Mahalaga ang oras, at mas mahalaga pa iyan kaysa pera.

That's a concept that separates the successful ones from the rest.

posted January 14, 2012 06:02AM
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Ganito usually ang nangyayari:

Kapag walang perang inilabas (walang pay-in), usually walang commitment ang nangyayari. Magjo-join lang tapos hindi tinatrabaho. Kumpara mo sa may ilalabas kang pera, lalo na kapag malaki ang puhunan, talagang kakaba kaba ka nyan. Pagkagising mo pa lang sa umaga, yun business kaagad ang nasa isip mo, kelangan asikasuhin para mabawi ang puhunan (malaki ang inilabas eh).

Imagine, if you are the upline leader of them, anong gusto mo, magkaroon ng network of downlines na binubuo ng mga "mediocre free members", or network na binubuo ng mga masisipag na networkers (masipag dahil kelangan eh, malaki ang nakatayang pera). Alin ang pipiliin mo?

Think about that.

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posted January 16, 2012 03:18PM
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I have nothing against sa mga malakihang pay-ins ng mga network companies, ang ayaw ko lang ay yung halos 20 percent lang ang value ng pinakawalan mong pera ang nagiging kapalit ng inilabas mong pera.
posted January 16, 2012 03:30PM
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the pay in is called investment. hindi ako sasali sa mlm na walang pay-in. walang pay-in, walang pay-out eh.. pag nag pay in ka pa, may commitment ka sa company :) that's what i think po

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shubbie posted on January 16, 2012 04:30PM

the pay in is called investment. hindi ako sasali sa mlm na walang pay-in. walang pay-in, walang pay-out eh.. pag nag pay in ka pa, may commitment ka sa company :) that's what i think po


ang taong may pangarap kahit maliit ang ipinuhunan pwedeng maging committed, Dyan sa sinabi  mo dahil sa kagustuhang makabawi ay kung ano-anong pangako ang sasabihin para lamang maka-rexruit,

posted January 17, 2012 02:31PM
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Yes, tama ka dyan. Kapag may pangarap at gusto mag-succeed, kahit walang investment, pwedeng maging committed. Pero rare ang mga taong ganyan. Numbers game tayo sa MLM di ba? And by experience, I have worked with SFI, an online MLM company na "free entry", generally speaking, ang mga tao, karamihan ng mga tao, kapag wala silang binitawan sa isang business na pinasok, walang commitment! Nung una, idealist din ako, but my experience have taught me what is the "reality" in this business world.

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Tama ka dyan Gomer, kung sino pa yung nangangailangan at gusto mong matulungan ay sila pa ang umaayaw. Yan nga siguro ang dahilan kung bakit ang mahirap ay mahirap pa rin sa ngayon.
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microworkers posted on December 29, 2011 09:43PM

Pero di mo ba nahahalata na yung pay-in mo ay mapupunta lamang sa mga uplines na nag-aabang ng mga bagong sasali?

Why do you have to pay membership fees for you to have the right to promote a product?

 

Just to site an example: Pinasok sa MLM ang isang cable subscription. Wala kang gagawin kundi mag-subscribe lang sa cable company and you are given the right to promote it. Then sa lahat ng mga nag-subscribe na naging downlines mo may kita ka. Don't you think this is possible? Kailangan mo pa ba ng reconditioning ng mindset just to get involve?

 

"Hindi naman nila i-aallow kung sino-sino lang, dahil kung ginawa nila yun,
yung mga ok na mag wholesale at mag-distributor, ay matuturn off dahil hindi
sila magka-exclusivity, or wala silang advantage sa mga walang puhunan."

 

Wala yata akong naaalalang MLM company na tumanggi sa mga gustong sumali, basta't may pera ka, di ka na tatanungin kung ano ang mindset mo? Kung ano-ano pa nga ang ipapangako sa iyo para lamang magbayad ka eh. Kaya yung kawawang pobre na nangutang pa, dahil nalasing na sa mga ipinangako ni upline, pagkatapos magpag-in di na mahagilap si recruiter.


not neccessarily na mapupunta sa upline mo... Meron naman na tama ang distribution ng pay in mo sa company na pinasukan mo at sa mga uplines mo.. More over tama ang presyo ng item na bibilhin mo... 

MLM na tumatanggi basta may pera ka ay wala talaga may pera yun.. pero sa amin pag pera na objective siya ay dinidiscourage namin lalo pat tumitingin siya sa kita ng uplines niya.. Hindi siya aangat bilang member pag ganun.. glance lang dapat gawin mo sa upline mo ang direct views mo talaga ay yung taong iinvite mo to make you stand firm.. 

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Tama lang namang kumita ang mga uplines mo pero almost 70% na ng pay-in mo ang pumupunta sa distribution ng commission ay parang wala ng value ang products na binili mo. Tawag dyan ay pera-pera na lang.
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