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Hey ur using verses OUT OF CONTEXT just to justify ang pag inom mo ng alak... 

Read this to understand the use of wine before at ang pagkakaiba niya sa alak ngayon...


"Wine" in Biblical Perspective. Building on the conclusions reached in Chapter 2, I proceeded in Chapter 3 to examine the reasons for the Biblical approval and disapproval of wine. What I found is that the positive references to "wine" have to do with unfermented and unintoxicating grape juice. Because of its natural and nourishing properties, grape juice was fittingly used to represent the divine blessing of material prosperity (Gen 27:28; 49:10-11; Deut 33:28), the blessing of the messianic age (Joel 2:18-19; Jer 31:10-12; Amos 9:13, 14), the free offer of God’s saving grace (Is 55:1), the wholesome joy God offers to His people (Ps 104:14-15; 4:7), and the acknowledgment of God through the use of grape juice as tithe, offerings and libations (Num 18:12; Deut 14:23; Ex 29:40; Lev 23:13).

On the other hand, the negative references to "wine" have to do with fermented and intoxicating wine. Some of the reasons Scripture condemns the use of alcoholic beverages are that they distort the perception of reality (Is 28:7; Prov 23:33); they impair the capacity to make responsible decisions (Lev 10:9-11); they weaken moral sensitivities and inhibitions (Gen 9:21; 19:32; Hab 2:15; Is 5:11-12); they cause physical sickness (Prov 23:20-21; Hos 7:5; Is 19:14; Ps 60:3); and they disqualify for both civil and religious service (Prov 31:4-5; Lev 10:9-11; Ezek 44:23; 1 Tim 3:2-3; Titus 1:7-8).

The Preservation of Wine. A major objection against the view that Scripture approves the use of unfermented grape juice is the alleged impossibility in Bible times of preserving grape juice unfermented. Thus, I devoted Chapter 4 to probing this popular assumption by investigating the testimonies of ancient writers regarding the art of preserving fruits and wines in general and grape juice in particular. To my surprise I discovered that the ancients were far more knowledgeable in the art of preserving fruits and wines than is generally believed.

Contrary to popular opinion, the problems the ancients encountered in preserving fermented wine were as great as, if not actually greater than, those faced in preserving unfermented grape juice. To prevent fermented wine from becoming acid, moldy, or foul-smelling, vintners used a host of preservatives such as salt, sea-water, liquid or solid pitch, boiled-down must, marble dust, lime, sulphur fumes and crushed iris.

In comparison to preserving fermented wine, preserving grape juice unfermented was a relatively simpler process. It was accomplished by boiling down the juice to a syrup, or by separating the fermentable pulp from the juice of the grape by means of filtration, or by placing the grape juice in sealed jars which were immersed in a pool of cold water, or by fumigating the wine jars with sulphur before sealing them. The use of such techniques clearly indicates that the means of preserving grape juice without fermentation were known and used in the ancient world. This conclusion is indirectly supported by the teachings and example of Jesus.

Jesus and Wine. The next logical step was to examine the major wine-related stories or sayings of Jesus since these are commonly used to prove that Christ made, commended, used and even commanded the use of alcoholic wine. In Chapter 5 I went into considerable detail to examine these claims. The conclusion of my analysis is that they are devoid of textual, contextual and historical support.

The "good wine" Jesus made at Cana (John 2:10) was "good" not because of its high alcoholic content, but because it was fresh, unfermented grape juice. This is indicated by external and internal considerations. Externally, contemporary authors, such as Pliny and Plutarch, attest that "good wines" were those which did not intoxicate, having had their alcoholic potency removed. Internally, moral consistency demands that Christ could not have miraculously produced between 120 to 160 gallons of intoxicating wine for the use of men, women and children gathered at the Cana’s wedding feast, without becoming morally responsible for prolonging and increasing their intoxication. Scriptural and moral consistency requires that "the good wine" produced by Christ was fresh, unfermented grape juice. This is supported by the very adjective used to describe it, namely kalos, which denotes that which is morally excellent, instead of agathos, which means simply good.

The "new wine" Jesus commended through the parable of the new wineskins (Luke 5:37-38; Mark 2:22) was unfermented must, either boiled or filtered, because not even new wineskins could withstand the pressure of the gas produced by fermenting new wine.

The self-description of Jesus as "eating and drinking" (Matt 11:19; Luke 7:34) does not imply that He used alcoholic wine, but rather that He freely associated with people at their meals and elsewhere. The phrase "eating and drinking" was used idiomatically to describe Christ’s social lifestyle.

The "fruit of the vine" Christ commanded to be used as a memorial of His redeeming blood (Matt 26:28-29; Mark 14:24-25) was not fermented wine, which in the Scripture represents human depravity and divine indignation, but pure unfermented grape juice, which is a fitting emblem of Christ’s untainted blood shed for the remission of our sins. This conclusion was established through a study of the language of the Last Supper, the Jewish Passover wine, the Passover law of fermentation, the consistency of the symbol and the survival of the use of unfermented grape juice at the Lord’s Supper. Most telling is the fact that Josephus calls the freshly squeezed grape juice "the fruit of the vine." This establishes unequivocally that the phrase was used to designate the sweet, unfermented juice of the grape. The evidences submitted shows that Jesus abstained from all intoxicating substances and gave no sanction to His followers for using them.

Wine in the Apostolic Church. The way the Apostolic Church understood, preached and practiced the teachings of Jesus and of the Old Testament regarding the use of alcoholic beverages provides a most valuable verification and clarification as to whether Scripture teaches moderation or abstinence. In view of the fundamental importance attached to the witness of the Apostolic Church, my next logical step was to examine in Chapter 6 the apostolic teachings regarding the use of wine in particular and of intoxicating substances in general.

This investigation proved to be the most rewarding. Contrary to the prevailing perception, I found that the New Testament is amazingly consistent in its teaching of abstinence from the use of alcoholic beverages. The very passages often used to support the moderationist view, under close scrutiny were found to negate such a view, teaching abstinence instead. For example, the irony of the mockers’ charge that on the day of Pentecost the apostles were drunk on gleukos, that is, on the grape juice which apparently was their common beverage (Acts 2:13), provides an indirect but important proof of their abstmious life-style and inferentially of the life-style of their Master. There would have been no point in the mockers' attributing to unfermented grape juice the cause of the disciples' strange actions, if it was not common knowledge that the apostles abstained from intoxicating wine. The intended jibewas that the disciples were such naíve simpletons they got drunk on grape juice!

Similarly, Paul’s reference to drunkenness at the communion table of the Corinthian church (1 Cor 11:21) offers no support for a moderate use of alcoholic wine, for two reasons. First, whatever was done at Corinth was a departure from the instructions Paul had delivered to the church (1 Cor 11:23); thus, the Corinthians' conduct constitutes a warning rather than an example for us. Second, a study of the meaning of the verb methuo ("satiated") and of the implications of Paul’s admonitions, clearly suggests that the problem at Corinth was indulgence in eating rather than intoxication with alcoholic wine.

I found one of the most powerful Biblical indictments against intoxicating wine in Ephesians 5:18, where Paul condemns wine as the cause of debauchery and shows the irreconcilable contrast between the spirit of wine and the Holy Spirit of God. To my great surprise, however, I found that most English translations and commentaries have chosen to translate or interpret Ephesians 5:18 by making "drunkenness" rather than "wine" the cause of debauchery. This was surprising to me because not only the Catholic and Protestant Italian translations, with which I am most familiar, but also numerous other ancient and modern translations, all translate Paul’s text as saying that in the very nature of wine is debauchery. It seems that some English translators had such a predilection for wine that they decided, to borrow the words of Ernest Gordon, to "save the face of wine while condemning drunkenness."6

The translators’ bias toward wine became most evident in the study of the apostolic admonitions to abstinence, expressed through the verb nepho and the adjective nephalios. The first meaning of the verb is "to abstain from wine" and of the adjective "abstinent, without wine." Yet these words have been consistently translated with their secondary sense of being "temperate, sober, steady," rather than by their primary sense of being "abstinent." Such biased and inaccurate translations have misled many sincere Christians into believing that the Bible teaches moderation in the use of alcoholic beverages, rather than abstinence from them.

It was equally surprising for me to discover that the fundamental reason given by Peter and Paul for their call to a life of mental vigilance and physical abstinence is eschatological, namely, preparation to live in the holy presence of Christ at His soon Coming. This reason has added significance for Christians like the Seventh-day Adventists, who accept the Biblical teachings on the Second Advent literally rather than existentially, that is, as a future realization of our present expectations rather than a present experience of the future. To abstain from intoxicating substances represents a tangible response to God’s invitation to make concrete preparation for the physical return of Christ. The analysis of the apostolic teachings regarding alcoholic beverages presented in Chapter 6, the longest in the book, provides in my view the most compelling defense of the Biblical principle of abstinence from intoxicating beverages.

http://www.biblicalperspectives.com/books/wine_in_the_bible/1.html




Message appended on March 12, 2012 09:46PM

What do you think ardeelo? your false accusations are nothing? natutuwa kang pintasan at husgaan ang mga kristiano ng kung ano ano kahit hindi mo naman nauunawaan ang katotohanan at nakikita kung ano ang tunay na Kristianismo.

palagay mo ba nakakatuwa ang ginagawa mo? you just keep on attacking and attacking without thinking or studying tapos sasabihin mong it's not persecuting Christians.

I remember many jews and religious leaders attacking Christ and Apostle before cause they hate and ignore the truth... their disagreement because they are blind kahit ano pang gawin mong pagpapaliwanag.


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posted March 12, 2012 09:15PM
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Anong proof nyo na non-fermented wine yun? saka di mo sinagot yung una kong tanong - LINGKOD KA BA NG DIYOS?

How about the bible condoning SLAVERY??? ano ang masasabi mo dyan?
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posted March 13, 2012 02:41PM
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Read History naman... ang ginagamit nilang alak noon ay galing sa grape tulad ng ginagamit sa Lord Supper, at dahil hindi masyadong ginagamit ang tubig noon dahil ito ay marumi kaya ginagamit nilang gamot ang wine o oil sa pagamot sa sugat nila... it does not mean ok lang maglasing hindi rin naman sinusuggest ng bibliya na ok lang uminom... nakatisod ka sa kapwa Kristiano mo o sa ibang mga unbelievers na kaibigan mo.

 

all believers of Christ are messenger of God and the Gospel, the ambassadors of the Word of God.

 

about slavery it is wrong... dahil sa kasalanan kaya nagkaroon ng slaves at iba na ngayon kesa noong may mga tyrant at barbaric sa lupain dahil if may slave man sa israel noon yun ay may pinag ugatan at dahilan kung bakit may slave.

 

pero pinalaya na tayo ng Diyos, pantay pantay at pinalaya sa kasalanan dahil kay Kristo Hesus.




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OT:

For me habang may BUHAY may PAG-ASA!
alam ko na MATUTUGUNAN ang bawat issue kung tayong lahat ay KIKILOS (Simulan natin),
alisin ang inggit at crab mentality (BE POSITIVE!)
una pa rin ang takot sa Diyos, pagkilala sa Kanya at pananalig;
ang pagmamahal sa kapwa at sa bayan, unawaan at respeto...
patuloy nating labanan ang corruption, kahirapan at immorality,
SIMPLENG BUHAY, KUNTENTO SA KUNG ANONG MERON at pagtulong sa kapwa...
Wag mabuhay sa layaw at mga bisyo na dagdag sa pasakit natin,
(Ex: The effect of vices on health, ang prostitution o maagang pag-aasawa...
dahil sa pantasya sa mga panoorin (over population) ang pagsusugal wala na ngang makain,
ang paglalasing tapos nambubugbog ng asawa, at pagpatay o mga nakawan...
LAHAT AY MAGKAKA KONEKONEKTA at hindi natin majujustify ang mga maling gawain ng baluktot na prinsipyo o pangangatwiran.
ang bawat karahasan at kaguluhan o bawat crisis ay kagagawan ng tao!
maging ang bawat trahedya at pagsira sa kalikasan (Climate Change).
alam ko na bawat tao ay may karaingan pero LET'S DO WHAT IS RIGHT!!! at maging mabuting halimbawa sa iba lalo na sa mga susunod,
Maraming salamat po at patuloy suportahan din natin ang demokrasya (Arab Spring) sa ibang bansa at pagpantay- pantay.
Let us join the fight too against terrorism, illegal drugs, piracy and illegal arms trade/nuclear weapon in wrong purpose that threatens the peace and security...

 

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posted March 13, 2012 02:52PM
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enlightener posted on February 25, 2012 01:22PM

Also let us continue to fight corruption at ating tulungan ang mga kabataan against immoral relationship (Fornication, premarital sex, prostitution at kasama na ang adultery sa matatanda.) Mahalaga ang kasal at ito ay hindi isang laro. NO TO ABORTION AND CONTRACEPTION TOO!




 

Nakakatuwa lang at suportado mo ang "No to Abortion and Contraception"....maraming Christian groups kasi jan na anti-RHBill.

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Yes... Christian should not compromise and Stand on the truth...

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Message appended on March 12, 2012 09:46PM

What do you think ardeelo? your false accusations are nothing? natutuwa kang pintasan at husgaan ang mga kristiano ng kung ano ano kahit hindi mo naman nauunawaan ang katotohanan at nakikita kung ano ang tunay na Kristianismo.

palagay mo ba nakakatuwa ang ginagawa mo? you just keep on attacking and attacking without thinking or studying tapos sasabihin mong it's not persecuting Christians.

I remember many jews and religious leaders attacking Christ and Apostle before cause they hate and ignore the truth... their disagreement because they are blind kahit ano pang gawin mong pagpapaliwanag.

What is your fetish about persecution? Do you really think I'm persecuting you? It's sad to say but it's your righteous indignation that is the persecution tool that you use to condemn a whole lot of people of this world including me. I'm not the one who is going about and telling everyone that because they are not Christians then they will burn. Who is persecuting who? Do you believe that by proving I am persecuting you that you are thus righteous in your cause?

Persecution is not a funny thing. Persecution is where I chase you down a dead end stret and tear you a new a44hole. But I'm not. Let us not mince words here. I am a Catholic and for that....you see me as a lesser being....that being who is not a Christian...who does not know Christ according to the manner in which you believe. Right? And thus you keep on insisting.....so on and so forth....that unbelievers such as I are not worthy of heaven....because we don't believe in Christ in the same manner as you do.

That goes for all the other religions of this world. Basically...those that do not believe in Christ in the manner that almighty prophet Mr. Enlightener does is condemned to eternal damnation by the ever so merciful and forgiving Jesus Christ. The same Jesus Christ you said "forgive them for they know not what they do".....the same Christ who died on the cross to save us from our sins....is condemning at the current world population 7 billion people who do not believe in Jesus Christ the same way that almighty prophet Mr. Enlightener does. Yes....you are a messenger of God right? A prophet for all respect must be paid.

I never argued with you the merits of religious beliefs. I'm a firm believer that people should have something to believe in because except for Satanism....all religions in its essence seeks the goodness in the heart of men. But you are dangerously close to fanaticism to the point you are very exclusionary towards other people and that bothers me that people like you use the name of Christ and the Bible as instruments of fear instead of inspiration. That is the one thing that you are not aware of. This blatant use of fear and intimidation to harken non-believers into believing does not work anymore in this information age except to those with the same proclivity as you.

Secondly....I sure do hope you go back to reading and comprehension classes because your retorts to my first foray in this topic tread has been way off the mark. You never even got close. You were too embroiled in your emotions....in your hatred for anything that I say that you cannot see past the fingers that you wiped your derrier with in this mornings defacation session.

 Again Mr. Enlightener.....who is a Christian?

As a Catholic.....I am a Christian. You agree?


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simple life with simple rules, i bought all my time and spend it as i please, my laws are simple i just keep it down to the basics :) i just try my very very best to keep the ten commandments: only ten so not that many rules heheh
King James Version (KJV)

Exodus 20:1-17
1.) And God spake all these words, saying,
2.) I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3.) Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4.) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
5.) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6.) And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7.) Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
8.) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9.) Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10.) But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11.) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
12.) Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13.) Thou shalt not kill.
14.) Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15.) Thou shalt not steal.
16.) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17.) Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
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ardeelo posted on March 13, 2012 04:09PM
What is your fetish about persecution? Do you really think I'm persecuting you? It's sad to say but it's your righteous indignation that is the persecution tool that you use to condemn a whole lot of people of this world including me. I'm not the one who is going about and telling everyone that because they are not Christians then they will burn. Who is persecuting who? Do you believe that by proving I am persecuting you that you are thus righteous in your cause?

Persecution is not a funny thing. Persecution is where I chase you down a dead end stret and tear you a new a44hole. But I'm not. Let us not mince words here. I am a Catholic and for that....you see me as a lesser being....that being who is not a Christian...who does not know Christ according to the manner in which you believe. Right? And thus you keep on insisting.....so on and so forth....that unbelievers such as I are not worthy of heaven....because we don't believe in Christ in the same manner as you do.

That goes for all the other religions of this world. Basically...those that do not believe in Christ in the manner that almighty prophet Mr. Enlightener does is condemned to eternal damnation by the ever so merciful and forgiving Jesus Christ. The same Jesus Christ you said "forgive them for they know not what they do".....the same Christ who died on the cross to save us from our sins....is condemning at the current world population 7 billion people who do not believe in Jesus Christ the same way that almighty prophet Mr. Enlightener does. Yes....you are a messenger of God right? A prophet for all respect must be paid.

I never argued with you the merits of religious beliefs. I'm a firm believer that people should have something to believe in because except for Satanism....all religions in its essence seeks the goodness in the heart of men. But you are dangerously close to fanaticism to the point you are very exclusionary towards other people and that bothers me that people like you use the name of Christ and the Bible as instruments of fear instead of inspiration. That is the one thing that you are not aware of. This blatant use of fear and intimidation to harken non-believers into believing does not work anymore in this information age except to those with the same proclivity as you.

Secondly....I sure do hope you go back to reading and comprehension classes because your retorts to my first foray in this topic tread has been way off the mark. You never even got close. You were too embroiled in your emotions....in your hatred for anything that I say that you cannot see past the fingers that you wiped your derrier with in this mornings defacation session.

 Again Mr. Enlightener.....who is a Christian?

As a Catholic.....I am a Christian. You agree?


I would say.... Amen to that.

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I am doing what ever it takes for my family's future and I am happy to be with them.
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jhordan23 posted on March 13, 2012 10:42PM
I am doing what ever it takes for my family's future and I am happy to be with them.


Maximize Pleasure, Minimize Pain diba?




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georgeteodoro posted on March 13, 2012 04:09PM
simple life with simple rules, i bought all my time and spend it as i please, my laws are simple i just keep it down to the basics :) i just try my very very best to keep the ten commandments: only ten so not that many rules heheh
King James Version (KJV)

Exodus 20:1-17
1.) And God spake all these words, saying,
2.) I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3.) Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4.) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
5.) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6.) And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7.) Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
8.) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9.) Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10.) But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11.) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
12.) Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13.) Thou shalt not kill.
14.) Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15.) Thou shalt not steal.
16.) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17.) Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.


...ang opinion ko naman dito sa ibang rules dito ( of course hindi yun mga nasa batas na hindi dapat talaga gawin ) ay ... accepting ng konting pain, para magkaroon ng eternal Pleasure... anu kaya sa palagay ninyo?

 


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enlightener posted on March 13, 2012 03:41PM

about slavery it is wrong... dahil sa kasalanan kaya nagkaroon ng slaves at iba na ngayon kesa noong may mga tyrant at barbaric sa lupain dahil if may slave man sa israel noon yun ay may pinag ugatan at dahilan kung bakit may slave.

 

pero pinalaya na tayo ng Diyos, pantay pantay at pinalaya sa kasalanan dahil kay Kristo Hesus.


Duh.... hanggang ngayon naman sa GRAPE pa din nanggaling ang ALAK... and YES grapes contain alcohol! subukan mong kumain ng isang kilong pasas ewan ko lang kung di ka malasing. 

about slavery... basahin mo to ->

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed.  If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful.  You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts.  Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them.  (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

tagalog:

Ang mga alipin ay dapat magpakita ng buong paggalang sa kanilang mga amo upang walang masabi laban sa pangalan ng Diyos at sa ating mga aral. 2 At kung ang kanila namang amo ay kapwa nila Cristiano, hindi sila dapat magkulang ng paggalang sa mga ito sa dahilang sila'y magkapatid sa pananampalataya. Dapat pa nga nilang pagbutihin ang kanilang paglilingkod sapagkat ang pinaglilingkuran nila'y kaisa sa pananampalataya at pag-ibig. (Timoteo 1 6:1-2)

Ayan... NEW TESTAMENT na yan... PANAHON ni Cristo... bakit hindi sya nag sulat na - itigil nyo ang pag aalipin, ito ay masama, ang tao ay pantay pantay!

Kung ako ang tatanungin mo, mas mabuting tao pa si ABRAHAM LINCOLN kesa kay cristo - bakit? Siya ang nag ABOLISH ng slavery! dahil ang isang tao ay WALANG KARAPATAN MAG ARI ng kanyang kapwa tao!

Kung ang biblia ay talagang mabuti... dapat inalis na nila yan noon pa at si Cristo mismo ang dapat nanguna sa pag alis nun.

At wag mong sasabihin na kaya may slavery noon dahil sa mga TYRANT sa lupain??? HELLO MALI KA NA NAMAN!

Mas maraming tyrant ang nabuhay AFTER ni cristo, ikumpara mo ang tyrant sa biblia sa mga tyrant ng 20th century

Adolf Hitler - killed 12,000,000 people
Joseph Stalin - killed 23,000,000++ people
Pol Pot - 2,000,000 people
Mao Ze Dong - 4,000,000++

madami pa... ano laban ng mga tyrant mo sa bible sa mga tyrant ng 20th century? saka COMMON SENSE anong kinalaman ng TYRANT sa SLAVERY?

Ang hirap sa yo kaibigan... daldal ka ng daldal - hindi mo naman alam ang mga pinag sasasabi mo. Kung ako sa yo, para hindi ka mag mukhang katawa tawa, mag research ka muna ng mabuti bago ka mangaral dyan.


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magpakain sa pinakamahirap !!! ito po ang pinaka-basic.  kung gusto ninyong maging kristianong may hinaharap. Bakit po? Dahil sabi ni Hesus, pagpinakain mo ang pinakamahirap sa mga mahihirap, parang pinakain mo na rin Siya! iTO PO ay sinabi ni Hesus sa isang parabulo ng paghihiwalayin niya ang mga tupa sa kambing pagdating Niya. Kailan po ba kayo huling nagpakain sa pinakamahirap sa pinakamahirap?

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RIP to sir Karl Roy.... we love you the Filipino rock legend
continue Rock EN Roll in Heaven \m/,
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tama ang purpose of our life is only to worship the Only God who created us and provided us with everything to support this life. and there is only one religious book on the face of the earth today that clearly says that.

but first human being should know who is This God WHo Created him? because without knowing HIM and HIS commands or Instructions, it will be impossible for any human to worship God the way HE wanted it to be.

even Jesus said as recorded in John 17:3, saying that " And this is life eternal that they may know You, The Only True God, and Jesus christ whom You have sent (as a Prophet or Messenger of God)"

so Jesus is even inviting us to know The Only True God that he was also worshiping when he was here on earth.

the description of GOD can only be found in The Last Testament of God sent to mankind on earth.

in chapter 112 it says, the english meaning:

Say He is GOD, The Only One

God is Absolute and Eternal (meaning-HE has no beginning and no end, HE was already there before anything exists, and HE will remain when everything perished, HE is Self-Sufficient and All-Powerful, All-Knowing- meaning HIS Power and Knowledge does not increase nor decrease- meaning HE does not eat nor drink (to increase power) nor study or experience to increase in knowledge ) and HE does not sleep nor get tired (as example of decreasing in power) nor forgets nor errs(as decreasing in knowledge).

HE begets not nor HE is begotten( because begetting or reproduction is only characteristics given by GOD to all HIS living creatures to perpetuate their species, because all living creatures are mortal)

And there is nothing comparable or similar to HIM(meaning HE is unique and different from any of HIS creatures)

that's The God worthy of worship and devotion.

worship means praying to HIM, repenting to HIM, asking help from HIM, obeying HIM, serving and loving the parents, serving and loving the family, helping and serving humanity are some examples of acts that are pleasing to THE Creator which constitutes worship. how these are exactly done, is by following the ways of the Prophets or Messengers of God, because they are our models in life.
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YOU IGNORE THE VERSES I POST AND THE EXPLANATION I GAVE, YOU IGNORE THE FACT TOO ABOUT THE ALCOHOL EFFECT ON HEALTH... 

sinong nanghuhula ngayon at gumagamit ng verse na out of context, palibhasa kasi hindi alam o nauunawaan ang pagkakasabi at kung bakit ganun ang pangyayari.

re read my post.

 


Proverbs 20:1 - Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging.

Proverbs 23:19-20 - A wise person will not be among the drinkers of alcoholic beverages.

Proverbs 23:21 - Drunkenness causes poverty.

Proverbs 23:29-30 - Drinking causes woe, sorrow, fighting, babbling, wounds without cause and red eyes.

Proverbs 23:31 - God instructs not to look at intoxicating drinks.

Proverbs 23:32 - Alcoholic drinks bite like a serpent, sting like an adder.

Proverbs 23:33 - Alcohol causes the drinker to have strange and adulterous thoughts, produces willfulness, and prevents reformation.

Proverbs 23:34 - Alcohol makes the drinker unstable

Proverbs 23:35 - Alcohol makes the drinker insensitive to pain so he does not perceive it as a warning. Alcohol is habit forming.

Proverb 31:4-5 - Kings, Princes, and others who rule and judge must not drink alcohol. Alcohol perverts good judgment.

Proverbs 31:6-7 - Strong drink could be given to those about to perish or those in pain. Better anesthetics are available today.

Ecclesiastes 2:3 - The king tried everything, including intoxicating drink, to see if it satisfied. It did not. (Ecclesiastes 12:8)

Ecclesiastes 10:17 - A land is blessed when its leaders do not drink.

Isaiah 5:11-12 - Woe to those who get up early to drink and stay up late at night to get drunk.

Isaiah 5:22 - Woe to "champion" drinkers and "experts" at mixing drinks.

Isaiah 19:14 - Drunken men stagger in their vomit.

Isaiah 22:12-13 - The Israelites choose to drink; their future looks hopeless to them.

Isaiah 24:9 - Drinkers cannot escape the consequences when God judges.

Isaiah 28:1 - God pronounces woe on the drunkards of Ephraim.

Isaiah 28:3 - Proud drunkards shall be trodden down.

Isaiah 28:7 - Priests and prophets stagger and reel from beer and wine, err in vision, and stumble in judgment.
Isaiah 28:8 - Drinkers’ tables are covered with vomit and filth.

40) Isaiah 56:9-12 - Drinkers seek their own gain and expect tomorrow to be just like today.
Jeremiah 35:2-14 - The Rechabites drank no grape juice or intoxicating wine and were blessed.

Ezekiel 44:21 - Again God instructed the priests not to drink wine.

Daniel 1:5-17 - Daniel refused the king’s intoxicating wine and was blessed for it along with his abstaining friends.




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Basahin mo ito ardeelo at unawain mo kung anong ibig sabihin ng persekusyon sa mga Kristiano... hindi yung personal mong opinyon.

 

Mahirap para sa mga mananampalataya na naninirahan sa mga bansa na kung saan ang kalayaan sa relihiyon ang siyang pundasyon ng kultura, para lubusang maunawaan ang kabayaran ng pagsunod kay Kristo sa ibang bahagi ng mundo. Ang Bibliya, samantala, ay ang Salita ng Diyos, Ito ay naglalaman ng malawak na pang-unawa sa lahat ng mga pagsubok at paghihirap, anumang oras at lugar. Nilinaw ni Hesus na ang pagsunod sa kanya ay nangangailangan ng malaking sakripisyo. Sa katunayan, naging kabayaran nito ang lahat-lahat ng nasa atin. Una, naging kabayaran nito ang ating mga sarili. Sinabi ni Hesus sa mga taong sumunod sa Kanya “ Kung ibig ninuman na sumunod sa Akin, limutin niya ang ukol sa kanyang sarili, pasanin ang kanyang krus at sumunod sa Akin” (Marcos 8:34). Ang krus ay isang instrumento ng kamatayan kaya’t nililinaw lamang ni Hesus na ang pagsunod sa Kanya ay nangangahulugang kailangang kalimutan ng isang tao ang kanyang sarili. Ang lahat ng ating makamundong pagnanasa at ambisyon ay kailangan nating ipako sa krus upang makamit natin ang bagong buhay sa Kanya, sapagkat walang sinuman ang makapagsisilbi sa dalawang Amo (Lucas 16:13). Subalit ang bagong buhay na iyon ay napakalayo ang kaibahan at napakamahal kung ikukumpara sa pwede nating makamit dito sa mundo.

Pangalawa, maaring ang magiging kabayaran ay ang ating pamilya at mga kaibigan. Ipinaliwanag ni Hesus sa aklat ng Mateo 10:32-39 na ang kanyang pagdating ay magdadala ng pagkakahati sa pagitan ng mga sumusunod sa Kanya at ng kanilang mga pamilya, subalit ang sinumang nagmamahal sa pamilya na mas higit pa sa Diyos ay hindi karapat-dapat na maging tagasunod ni Kristo. 

Kung tatanggihan natin si Kristo para lang mapanatili natin ang kapayapaan sa ating pamilya dito sa mundo, itatanggi rin Niya tayo sa langit, at kung itatanggi tayo ni Hesus, hindi tayo makakapasok sa langit. Subalit kung ipapahayag natin si Hesus sa mga tao, kahit ano pa man ang magiging personal na kabayaran, sasabihin ni Hesus sa Kanyang Ama, “Ang taong ito ay Akin-tanggapin Ninyo siya sa Inyong Kaharian.” Ang buhay na walang hanggan ay ang “Perlas na napakalaki ng halaga” Sinasabi sa aklat ng Mateo 13:44-45 karapat-dapat isuko ang lahat makamit lamang ito. Walang magandang naidudulot ang pagkamal ng mga bagay sa mundong ito at bilang kapalit mawawalan naman ng buhay na walang hanggan. “Ano nga ang mapapala ng isang tao, makamtan man niya ang buong daigdig kung ang katumbas naman nito ay ang kanyang buhay?” (Marcos 8:36) Sinabi nga ng isang misyonero na namatay habang inihahayag si Hesus sa mga Huaorani Indian sa bansang Equador, “ Hindi hangal ang isang taong ibinibigay ang hindi niya kayang sarilinin upang mapakinabangan ang hindi naman mawawala sa kanya.”

Nilinaw din ni Hesus na ang mga pag-uusig na mararanasan ng isang Kristiyano dahil sa kanyang pananampalataya sa Kanya ay hindi-maiiwasan. Pinapalakas Niya ang ating loob at sinasabing karaniwan lamang ito sa kanyang mga tagasunod, at dapat maging matatag tayo sa mga pag-uusig sa atin. Tinawag din niya ang mga inuusig na “Biniyayaan” at sinabi Niyang “magsaya ng lubusan sapagkat ang inyong gantimpala sa langit ay dakila”(Mateo 5:10-12). Ipinaalala din Niya sa atin na ang Kanyang mga tagasunod ay sa simula pa, palagi na silang inuusig. Ang mga Propeta sa Lumang Tipan ay inusig, kinutya, pinahirapan, pinatay at sa ilang kaso hinati sa dalawa! (Hebreo 11:37) Ang lahat ng mga Apostol (maliban kay Juan na nabilanggo sa Isla ng Patmos) ay pinatay dahil sa paghahayag kay Kristo. Sinabi pa ng tradisyon na iginiit ni Pedro na ipako siya sa krus ng patiwarik dahil hindi umano siya karapat-dapat na mamatay na sa parehong paraan ng kanyang Panginoon na si Hesus. Subalit isinulat niya sa kanyang unang liham “Mapalad kayo kung kayo’y inalipusta dahil kay Kristo, sapagkat sumasainyo ang Dakilang Espiritu, ang Espiritu ng Diyos” (1 Pedro 4:14). Ang Apostol na si Pablo ay nabilanggo, binugbog at binato na ilang beses dahil sa paghahayg kay Hesus, subalit kinokonsidera niya ang kanyang mga paghihirap na hindi karapat-dapat banggitin kumpara sa karangalang naghihintay sa kanya (Roma 8:18).

Maaaring ang kabayaran ng pagiging tagasunod ni Kristo ay malaki, subalit kung mayroon mang naghihintay na gantimpala sa kalangitan mayroon din naman gantimpala para sa mga kristiyano dito sa mundo. Ipinangako ni Hesus sa atin na palagi Niya tayong gagabayan hanggang sa katapusan ng Sanlibutan (Mateo 28:20); Hindi Niya tayo iiwanan at pababayaan (Hebreo 13:5); Alam Niya ang sakit at mga paghihirap natin, sapagkat nagdusa rin Siya para sa atin(1 Pedro 2:21); Ang Kanyang pagmamahal sa atin ay walang katapusan, Hindi Niya tayo susubukan ng higit pa sa ating makakaya. Sa halip, pagdating ng pagsubok, bibigyan Niya kayo ng lakas upang mapagtagumpayan iyon (1 Corinto 10:13). Kung tayo ang pinaka-una sa ating pamilya o kultura na tumanggap kay Hesus, naging bahagi tayo sa pamilya ng Diyos at tayo ang Kanyang kinatawan sa ating mga mahal sa buhay at maging sa buong mundo. Maaring tayo ang instrumentong Kanyang gagamitin para mapalapit sa Kanya ang iba, ito ang magbibigay sa atin lubos na kasiyahan.




Message appended on March 14, 2012 11:28PM

Iba na ang panahon noon at ngayon, it is passive na nagkaroon ng slavery kasi nga dahil sa kasalanan yun ang dapat mong malaman hindi yun kalooban ng Diyos.

yes were servant of God but not slave of man, dahil kay Kristo lahat pantay pantay, ngayon kung gusto mong maging slave then go on magpaalipin ka... but i don't think so if you will like to be one.

napaka simple lang... kung naging slave man ang ibang pinoy para kumita sila pumapasok na katulong.

but thank God

history will be remember how America and other country ABOLISH SLAVERY.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

 

The Emancipation Proclamation is an executive order issued by United States PresidentAbraham Lincoln on January 1, 1863, during the American Civil War using his war powers. It proclaimed the freedom of slaves in the ten states then in rebellion, thus applying to 3.1 million of the 4 million slaves in the U.S. at that time. The Proclamation immediately freed 50,000 slaves, with nearly all the rest (of the 3.1 million) freed as Union armies advanced. The Proclamation did not compensate the owners, did not itself outlaw slavery, and did not make the ex-slaves (calledfreedmen) citizens.[1]

On September 22, 1862, Lincoln announced that he would issue a formal emancipation of all slaves in any state of the Confederate States of America that did not return to Union control by January 1, 1863. None returned, and the order, signed and issued January 1, 1863, took effect except in locations where the Union had already mostly regained control. The Proclamation made abolition a central goal of the war (in addition to reunion), outraged white Southerners who envisioned a race war, angered some Northern Democrats, energized anti-slavery forces, and weakened forces in Europe that wanted to intervene to help the Confederacy.[2]

Slavery was made illegal everywhere in the U.S. by the Thirteenth Amendment, which took effect in December 1865.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emancipation_Proclamation


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ExtraStorageSpace posted on March 14, 2012 01:48AM

magpakain sa pinakamahirap !!! ito po ang pinaka-basic.  kung gusto ninyong maging kristianong may hinaharap. Bakit po? Dahil sabi ni Hesus, pagpinakain mo ang pinakamahirap sa mga mahihirap, parang pinakain mo na rin Siya! iTO PO ay sinabi ni Hesus sa isang parabulo ng paghihiwalayin niya ang mga tupa sa kambing pagdating Niya. Kailan po ba kayo huling nagpakain sa pinakamahirap sa pinakamahirap?


  bakit ka magpapakain at gagastusin ang pinaghirapan mong pera, kung halimbawa janitor lang ang isang tao at hindi ka pa makabili ng tamang pagkain para sa sarili nya?  dahil ba gusto pumunta sa langit?

e di kung ganun, mas maraming mayayaman ang pupunta ng langit kasi sila may maipapakain sa mahihirap diba? 

e di talo nanaman ang mga mahihirap... kahirap na nga sa mundong ito.. pupunta pa ng hell ...

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KAIBIGAN, bawat oras ay mahalaga wag mo itong sayangin,
may PURPOSE kung bakit tayo nabubuhay at kasagutan sa buhay...
ang KASALANAN ang nagpapahirap at nagpapahamak sa tao.
Mahal ka ng Diyos at si HESUS ay kailangan mo at makakapagbago sa'yo,
Tanggapin mo Siya sa iyong puso bilang PANGINOON at TAGAPAGLIGTAS mo...
ang Salita Niya (Bibliya) gabay sa buhay at kalooban ng Diyos.
Patuloy tayong mabuhay ng SIMPLE AT MAKUNTENTO sa kung anong meron,
wag susuko sa mga problema at bumangon kapag ika'y bumagsak.
Habang may BUHAY MAY PAG-ASA makiisa sa PAGBABAGO pagtugon sa bawat issue...
Kumilos at TUMAYO SA KATOTOHANAN! labanan ang korupsyon at immoralidad,
Kabataan pag-asa ng bayan, mabuhay ang mga mangangawa at ofw.
Msg. From:James307 (Baptist Church and Tau Gamma Phi) MS WIZARD.

 

What the Bible said?

Present your body a living sacrifice, Holy and acceptable unto God

Your body is the temple of the God. (The believer of Christ.)




Message appended on March 14, 2012 11:33PM

Kapag naipapangaral ang ebanghelyo do not get mad, when the Word of God- The Truth and Light be preach then accept it...

instead of making drama just to ask respect, that ignorance cannot save you or exempt you in the punishment in the lake of fire.

wag mong sabihing dinidiktahan ka bagkus USE YOUR HEAD to study things kung totoo nga ba o kung gawa gawa at tradisyun lang ng tao,

we must believe what the Bible said at wag husgaan ang mga lingkod Niya na concern na nangangaral para maligtas ka at malaman mo ang TAMA AT KUNG ANO ANG MALI!

we do it with love, patience and understanding kaya sana ay malaman mong mahal ka ng Diyos kaya namatay si Hesus sa krus para maligtas ka sa pagtanggap mo sa Kanya...

the wrong with other people is they want to do sin or things that they want and yet ignore the reality or truth in the Bible at magkakakaroon pa ng doubt because of lack of understanding and studies on that matter.

let us not just believe sa kung sino sino lang para hindi maligaw ng landas but to have faith in God, to serve people and live according to His will as we say we love Him!


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joxecruz posted on March 14, 2012 11:30PM
ExtraStorageSpace posted on March 14, 2012 01:48AM

magpakain sa pinakamahirap !!! ito po ang pinaka-basic.  kung gusto ninyong maging kristianong may hinaharap. Bakit po? Dahil sabi ni Hesus, pagpinakain mo ang pinakamahirap sa mga mahihirap, parang pinakain mo na rin Siya! iTO PO ay sinabi ni Hesus sa isang parabulo ng paghihiwalayin niya ang mga tupa sa kambing pagdating Niya. Kailan po ba kayo huling nagpakain sa pinakamahirap sa pinakamahirap?

 

  bakit ka magpapakain at gagastusin ang pinaghirapan mong pera, kung halimbawa janitor lang ang isang tao at hindi ka pa makabili ng tamang pagkain para sa sarili nya?  dahil ba gusto pumunta sa langit?

e di kung ganun, mas maraming mayayaman ang pupunta ng langit kasi sila may maipapakain sa mahihirap diba? 

e di talo nanaman ang mga mahihirap... kahirap na nga sa mundong ito.. pupunta pa ng hell ...

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<tama, kaya ang obligado dapat lamang magpakain at magbigay sa mga mahihirap ay yaong mga mayayaman, at ang janitor na yon at mg akatulad nya na mga mahihirap ay silang tatanggap ng ipapakain at ipapamigay na tulong ng mga mayayaman.

 

ang mga mahihirap naman, maari pa rin silang tumulong kung kaya nila, at ito ay kusa nalamang nila, hindi sila obligado.

 

yan ang tunay sa katarungan, at ito ay pagsubok para sa mga mayayaman- kung mamimigay ba sila o hindi, tutulong ba sila o magpakain sa mga mahihirap o hindi, sapagkat ano mang oras kapag binawi na ng Dios na nagbigay nitong kayamanan sa kaniya ay hndi sya maaring tumanggi. ilan nang mayayaman ang nawalan? ang nabankrupt, etc?

kapag ginawa nila ang pagtulong ay may gantimpala sila, ngunit kung hindi kahit pinayaman na sila ng Dios, ay sympre may parusa din yan.

 

ang mga mahihirap naman ay may pagsubok din na iba kaysa sa mga mayayaman, at ito ay ang magtimpi sa panahon ng kahirapan, hndi dahilan ang pagnanakaw o panghohold-up dahil sa nagugutom o naghirap,kundi pagsikapan na magawan ng paraan sa legal o ipinahintulot ng Dios na paraan, at kung ano lamang ang biyayang matanggap ay pasasalamatan ito, ngayon kung nagtimpi sya at nagpapasalamat kahit kaunti lamang ang biayay na binigay sa kaniya ng Dios ay sigurado namang may gantimpala sya mula sa Dios, pero kung gumawa sya ng mga pagnanakaw at mga paglabag sa Dios at hndi nagtimpi ay siguradong may parusa din naman.

 

yan ang katarungan ng Dios, ibat-ibang pagsubok sa bawat tao.

 

kaya hndi lahat ginawa ng Dios na mayayaman lahat, sapagkat , sino pa ang bibigyan at tutulungan kung puro lahat mayayaman? wala ngayong tatanggap ng gantimpala sa pagtulong sa mahihirap.

 

at wala nang magtatarabaho para sa mga mayayaman, kaya masmahihirpan na sila kung lahat ng tao ay mayayaman

 

kaya ginawa ng Dios na may mga mayayaman at mga mahihirap dahil SIya ang Pinakamakatarungan>

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enlightener posted on March 14, 2012 11:33PM

KAIBIGAN, bawat oras ay mahalaga wag mo itong sayangin,
may PURPOSE kung bakit tayo nabubuhay at kasagutan sa buhay...

-anu ba dapat ang purpose ng buhay ng lahat ng tao?


ang KASALANAN ang nagpapahirap at nagpapahamak sa tao.

- toto yan kaya nga may nakukulong diba?  hindi ba common sense na wag gumawa ng kasalanan?


Mahal ka ng Diyos at si HESUS ay kailangan mo at makakapagbago sa'yo,
Tanggapin mo Siya sa iyong puso bilang PANGINOON at TAGAPAGLIGTAS mo...
ang Salita Niya (Bibliya) gabay sa buhay at kalooban ng Diyos.

--minsan sa bible kailangan mo piliin lang ang mga magagandang bagay na ma-apply sa pang sariling sitwasyon... ( may kakilala ako, super bible study sila palagi... tapos na kwento nya may nakaaway daw ang family nya, pero blessed daw sila dahil ilang buwan daw lang e nagkasakit ng cancer ang nakaaway nila at namatay... )


Patuloy tayong mabuhay ng SIMPLE AT MAKUNTENTO sa kung anong meron,

-di ba kasabihan na ng ibang mga pinoy ito kaya hindi umuunlad ng bayan natin? dala na rin siguro ng walang pagkakataon makapa-aral at katamaran.-

wag susuko sa mga problema at bumangon kapag ika'y bumagsak.
Habang may BUHAY MAY PAG-ASA makiisa sa PAGBABAGO pagtugon sa bawat issue...

 

Kumilos at TUMAYO SA KATOTOHANAN! labanan ang korupsyon at immoralidad,
Kabataan pag-asa ng bayan, mabuhay ang mga mangangawa at ofw.
Msg. From:James307 (Baptist Church and Tau Gamma Phi) MS WIZARD.

 

What the Bible said?

Present your body a living sacrifice, Holy and acceptable unto God

Your body is the temple of the God. (The believer of Christ.)




Message appended on March 14, 2012 11:33PM

Kapag naipapangaral ang ebanghelyo do not get mad, when the Word of God- The Truth and Light be preach then accept it...

instead of making drama just to ask respect, that ignorance cannot save you or exempt you in the punishment in the lake of fire.

wag mong sabihing dinidiktahan ka bagkus USE YOUR HEAD to study things kung totoo nga ba o kung gawa gawa at tradisyun lang ng tao,

we must believe what the Bible said at wag husgaan ang mga lingkod Niya na concern na nangangaral para maligtas ka at malaman mo ang TAMA AT KUNG ANO ANG MALI!

-- may mga disagreement lang ako sa ibang part ng bible... tulad ng pagpatay... ng mga sanggol sa ehipto?  hindi ko pa gaano ma-accept ang bagay na ito..feeling ko hindi tama.

we do it with love, patience and understanding kaya sana ay malaman mong mahal ka ng Diyos kaya namatay si Hesus sa krus para maligtas ka sa pagtanggap mo sa Kanya...

the wrong with other people is they want to do sin or things that they want and yet ignore the reality or truth in the Bible at magkakakaroon pa ng doubt because of lack of understanding and studies on that matter.

--- hindi ako gaano sure anu ang TRUTH na nasa bible... paki explain nga?

let us not just believe sa kung sino sino lang para hindi maligaw ng landas but to have faith in God, to serve people and live according to His will as we say we love Him!

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I hope christian should have a thankful heart.Excited sa magandang balita ng Dios .Purihin at sambahin ang kanyang kadakilaan.




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I hope christian should have a thankful heart.Excited sa magandang balita ng Dios .Purihin at sambahin ang kanyang kadakilaan.


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