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posted April 16, 2012 07:05PM
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Hi, I would like to ask for you advice regarding accounting my sales and expenses.

I started out a small home based baking business and I already had my 2nd sale. How do I record this to know the breakeven point and to keep track of my expenses and income?

Thanks.

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posted April 22, 2012 06:47AM
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RE:

Hi, I would like to ask for you advice regarding accounting my sales and expenses.

I started out a small home based baking business and I already had my 2nd sale. How do I record this to know the breakeven point and to keep track of my expenses and income?

Thanks.

 

It would be: INCOME - EXPENSES = Profit or Loss

INCOME: Sale 1 + Sale 2 (Sales could be zero)

EXPENSES: Engredients + Supplies + Equipment + Marketing + Utilities (Electric, Telecommunication, Water, etc.) + Transportation + Other Operational Cost

Don't think of break even point...always think of cash flow and earnings...

 

 


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posted April 22, 2012 06:58AM
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Hmmm.... isn't equipment considered a fixed investment for a long duration of time and shouldn't be included in monthly/daily/weekly expenses?
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posted April 22, 2012 08:06AM
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Yes, Equipments are Assets, however you can still calculate the daily depreciation value, a value that is an expense(loss).


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posted April 22, 2012 08:49AM
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Congrats,
try to list it down the expenses vs the sales for atleast a month..
goodluck..

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posted April 22, 2012 10:15AM
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+ consider also the salary for youself coz you also work for it even you own the business. -enjoy madam


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posted April 22, 2012 10:29AM
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purr posted on April 16, 2012 07:05PM

Hi, I would like to ask for you advice regarding accounting my sales and expenses.

I started out a small home based baking business and I already had my 2nd sale. How do I record this to know the breakeven point and to keep track of my expenses and income?

Thanks.

 

if your doing business and tracking records, you have to set first your total generated sales then deduct it to be part of your savings cashflow, meaning to say gross profit to net profit, break even could not be justified yet if sales is just only starting to boost up, much more important thing to considered is the cash flow, generating repeatedly to accumulate earnings which is total net profit beyond expenses that you have, then if things can be controlled based on accumulated earnings that is the time that you can create break even..do the trial balance for every assets that you have, it can be meausure there but not exact ^^, hope i help you about your question, thanks emoticon


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posted April 23, 2012 08:47PM
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gross - expenses (engredients) = net
net - 2% for the equipment - other expenses (utility bill)
the sum is your income

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posted April 24, 2012 03:12PM
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elmer29 posted on April 23, 2012 08:47PM
gross - expenses (engredients) = net
net - 2% for the equipment - other expenses (utility bill)
the sum is your income


Can you further elaborate the gross and why is 2% deducted from the net?

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posted April 24, 2012 03:33PM
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ts , if you have a desktop or laptop at home , try to have an excel sheet . so that you can put all your expenses and your sales there and its much easier to keep track.

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posted April 24, 2012 03:44PM
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try not to make things too complicated for NOW

- open a bank account nalang, one with a passbook 

- all expenses recorded via withdrawal 

- all earnings recorded via deposit

 

- after 3 months saka mo na ipasok ang pag gawa paunti-unti ng balance sheet involving equipment, overhead expenses, etc (madami iyan)

for now concentrate on selling and depositing all sales. this way gaganahan ka pag nakikita mong lumalaki ang pera mo sa passbook.

 

oh . . and do the accounting yourself para tipid. You can downlod this from the internet. 

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posted April 24, 2012 04:00PM
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purr posted on April 24, 2012 03:12PM
elmer29 posted on April 23, 2012 08:47PM
gross - expenses (engredients) = net
net - 2% for the equipment - other expenses (utility bill)
the sum is your income


Can you further elaborate the gross and why is 2% deducted from the net?


I think he's saying that equipment is an asset that depreciates.. For you to know more in clearer view, you have to estimate the value of the equipment you purchase and its life span. Let say your oven cost P20,000 and you think will like be no value or will only last for 20years.. you will deduct P1000/year as an equipment cost or an expense. If you're using a balance sheet, you can put that on the Asset side as "Depreciation Expense" and "Accumulated Depreciation" on the other side. Sorry for the technicalities. -enjoy madam


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posted May 6, 2012 08:13AM
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elmer29 posted on April 23, 2012 08:47PM
gross - expenses (engredients) = net
net - 2% for the equipment - other expenses (utility bill)
the sum is your income


Nice formula. More final than the previous comments. Thanks, dami ko natututunan dito ah. :)

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posted May 6, 2012 10:40AM
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@ TS,
pm me, I may help you start a format in your computer in keeping records of your cash flow.
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posted May 25, 2012 12:35PM
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Make an Excel file and record every sales you make then create a formula out of it. Para everytime you encode = Automatically na mag compute and excel.
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posted August 20, 2012 01:19AM
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You need to consider computing per unit cost, this will help you identify your direct cost for every item to be sold. It will be easier to formulate your mark up, break even points and direct item expense; this will avoid over expense for the excess ingredients. Add on cost will be your labor, creativity, transportation and utility. Price will come in handy for your next client quotation.
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posted September 17, 2012 07:36PM
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Ako po ay nahihirapan sa pagprice ng aking product. Ano po ba ang fixed costs sa baking?
Kasi on my part free ang electricity dito sa amin we also have an oven already. Aside from utensils and other baking equipments ano pa po ba?

Anyone who can help me sa pricing will highly be appreciated. Thanks!
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posted October 11, 2012 08:46AM
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need nyo dyan.inventory system. for your business para ma trace mo. in/out ng income mo
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posted October 11, 2012 09:03AM
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Nice, may natutunan ako sa thread na ito :)


Message appended on October 11, 2012 09:03AM
Nice, may natutunan ako sa thread na ito :)

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posted October 11, 2012 09:03AM
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Nice, may natutunan ako sa thread na ito :)
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