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posted May 2, 2012 10:13AM
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i posted this topic too over at the ebay discussion boards, and sadly i haven't gotten a reply yet. I guess ebay users are not as active as members here in sulit when in comes to forums.

So here goes..but before anything else, i am sharing this because i want fellow sulitizens to be aware. and please do not look down on me, as i too am a victim in this situation. di ko intention kailanman manloko ng kapwa..my current and loyal customers can attest to that..

i look forward to your thoughts and advises please. thank you so much

 

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guys, i'm not sure kung meron na sa inyong nakaranas nito..or ako lang..of all people 

ganito kasi:
I got a text message several months back, saying if you (me) can post some items for sale sa ebay using my ebay account. syempre ako nung una, bakit..kesyo powerseller daw siya dati, tapos na-hack of some sort yung account niya or what kaya he stopped, and then now he decided to sell again. sabi ko nye ang dali naman kaya gumawa ng account dito, bakit ndi ka gumawa uli.kesyo daw yung madami na daw akong customers and my feedback ratings are high kaya the ad will reach more potential buyers. sabi ko, mahirap kaya yan, malay ko bang di mo ipapadadala yung item tapos reputation ko yung mag-ssuffer. Hindi naman daw siya ganun, and he wouldn't do anything to harm my reputation.

so kulit siya ng kulit via text.until i told him, send me an email regarding the item, i'll look into it. which he did. sabi niya we'll try out 3 items and see the outcome. he even promised a 10% as part of my commission for every closed deal..

this is where my stupidity began..so una, may nabenta, galaxy tab. simple lang naman yung job ko, to post as is, as indicated in the email he sent me and inform him kung may mga inquiries about the item. number pa nga nya yung naka display sa ad e. so ayun nga, the 1st sale went smoothly. tapos he asked for my bank account,sabi niya dun niya iddeposit yung share ko. which i did, receive after several days..ang tanga ko lang, naging complacent ako kasi nga naman i got the money and the client posted positive feedback for my account. in short, to me it felt legit

then came the 2nd, 3rd and 4th sale..ang ginawa nya na pala this time was he instructed the buyers to deposit the payment to my bank account. tapos ako sinasabihan niya to transfer it to his gcash account, kesyo daw kasi di niya maccheck online yung account niya kung pumasok or what and he was not in manila. so ako naman, winidraw ko nga yung pera tapos transferred the money via gcash..stupid me..now looking back, ginawa niya yun para ako at details ko yung nakafront at kung sakaling magreklamo, less exposure for him ika nga 

then, 2weeks ago, i got a complaint saying he hasn't received his item, asan na daw yung refund niya.sabi ko sir, teka lang, im missing something. as you see, hindi po ako yung directly na natransact niyo, i was just a channel , a middle-man kung baga..

then of course i confronted yung naki post ng ads niya. oh by the way is ROBERT SESBRENO..i dunno kung totoong pangalan niya ito or what, demanding an explanation bakit hindi natanggap yung item..tapos sabi niya oo dont worry i'll refund him the money, i won't let anything happen to your reputation ok?

e di syempre my reputation was on the line, i kept on reminding and following him up as well. mabuti naman, naniwala si customer sa akin, and i was working closely with him regarding this robert's status. kasi nga daw promise ng promise nairerefund, delay ng delay naman daw. 

the story was, he sent the iphone 4s via lbc, tapos nawala daw ni lbc. since insured naman daw, Robert will send him the refund. kaso several weeks has passed kaya napilitan na siya magfile ng case.

until such a time that this robert wasn't answering my texts (normally he would reply right away, nor take my calls) kinutuban na ako that something was not right. so i started sending messages regarding if they received the item or not (since i didn't get feedback from them yet) apparently, same story. Item was shipped via lbc, the item got wet naman (for the galaxy note)..tapos eto i got a message from the other customer (who didn't reply to my inquiry nung una) asking for his refund. 

what i did with the first 2 customers who reported the non-arrival of their item, was of course to return whatever share i received from the sale. i'm working out with the 3rd complainant para maisoli ko na sa kanya asap yung share ko sa pera niya..hay 

so guys, what do i do. what do i do to help the customers too? meron na bang case na ganito?or is this the 1st time?

may this serve as a warning to everyone, to be vigilant. porket nakuha na yung loob mo; nagbayad na and all; ok na..that doesn't mean he/she is legit..mauutak na mga scammer ngayon, and sadly i was left in the middle 

now his cellphone number cannot be contacted anymore. pag tinawagan mo yung number, the number you dialled is incorrect, ang sinasabi. what does this message/recording mean? pinablock niya ako?

your thoughts please. i seriously need help 

thank you in advance

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posted May 2, 2012 11:10AM
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aww.. grabe naman.. tingin ko, siya din yung mga customer kuno eh.. tingin ko lang ah..
grabe.. expensive ang mga product na nawawala daw sa kanila.. doble doble na nakukuha nila sayo..
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posted May 2, 2012 11:49AM
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i don't mind the money..yung 10percent lang ha, kasi ang lalaki ng amount wala akong ganung pera hahaha

what i want is to restore my reputation na hindi ako scammer. i never am, and i never will be

let this experience serve as a warning to all of us: For gadgets, please as much as possible demand for a meet-up.pag yung account name at yung kausap niyo ay iba, magduda na. and for sellers, do not be tempted if people come up to you with a nice proposition, in the end ikaw din yung masusunog..look at what happened to me :(

buti na lang naagapan, pero 3 victims is still 3 victims.. sheesh wala lang..di ako mapakali talaga since 2 weeks ago. i just posted it now kasi a part of me is ashamed, pero i mustered up the courage to post this for evryone to know that there are people out there who will take advantage of you if you let your guard down..and that matatalino na mga scammer ngayon, tingnan niyo, bagong modus eto

hay :(
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posted May 2, 2012 11:55AM
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ingat nalang sa susunod.. don't trust anyone pag ganon na ang transaction..
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posted May 2, 2012 01:06PM
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surely he was a scammer... a bigtime. and yes nagpa-loko ka sa kanya.. in anyway wala kang pinanghahawakan sa nga deals nya..
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posted May 2, 2012 01:16PM
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Yes, I agree with Wilg

yun customer na bumili ng iphone (the first) sya din yun mismo nakiusap sayo.

kumbaga pinakagat ka lang na nagkaroon ng successfull transaction.

Now, comes the scam na.

And i really think it's a scam.

 

First, you shouldn't have agreed to such.

kasi mahirap talaga yun kahit saan mo tignan.

Ang mga scammers kasi hindi nauubusan ng strategy mga yan just try to look at this one:

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+topic/id/93004/Found%3A+Wallet%2Bbag+with+gadgets+inside

 

This is just one of them.

 

Now, going back to your problem (the second buyer) try mo din alamin, baka sya din yun 2nd customer, 3rd customer

I'm sure you can ask and find out.

Pra at least ma-save mo yun pera na ire-refund mo.

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posted May 2, 2012 01:19PM
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kuyajhun316 posted on May 2, 2012 01:06PM
surely he was a scammer... a bigtime. and yes nagpa-loko ka sa kanya.. in anyway wala kang pinanghahawakan sa nga deals nya..


yun nga po e, hay :(




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Here is the b*stard's details: eto lang na-retrieve kong information sa kanya since his address was required for gcash transfers. kung may nakakakilala dito, or nakaranas ng ganitong scam sa taong ito, please let me know. maraming salamat

Robert Sesbreno
Blk 2D Lot 1B Theresa Homes, Moncada, Tarlac
Cellphone number used (inactive na to this day) 09151337030

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posted May 2, 2012 01:26PM
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impossible naman na siya pa rin yung customers. anu yun? inikot lang ng scammer pera niya sa accounts between you and him. 2 ang naloko, ikaw at ang buyers.
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posted May 2, 2012 01:36PM
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absindex posted on May 2, 2012 01:16PM

Yes, I agree with Wilg

yun customer na bumili ng iphone (the first) sya din yun mismo nakiusap sayo.

kumbaga pinakagat ka lang na nagkaroon ng successfull transaction.

Now, comes the scam na.

And i really think it's a scam.

 

First, you shouldn't have agreed to such.

kasi mahirap talaga yun kahit saan mo tignan.

Ang mga scammers kasi hindi nauubusan ng strategy mga yan just try to look at this one:

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+topic/id/93004/Found%3A+Wallet%2Bbag+with+gadgets+inside

 

This is just one of them.

 

Now, going back to your problem (the second buyer) try mo din alamin, baka sya din yun 2nd customer, 3rd customer

I'm sure you can ask and find out.

Pra at least ma-save mo yun pera na ire-refund mo.


how was this a scam? sorry, sheesh i think i may be sheltered to a little extent (kaya ayan nabiktima ako,tanga)..educate me please :)

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posted May 2, 2012 01:37PM
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pag online talaga, keylangan mong maging wais.
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posted May 2, 2012 01:39PM
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Yes, it is likely possible.

Ganito. Kunwari buyer 2 na tayo considering lang to ha?

 

Buyer 2 (same aas the Scammer): buys from ebay seller and pays.

Ebay seller (Thread starter): Receives the money and transfers to the Scammer's Gcash

Scammer: receives money from Ebay seller

Buyer 2: files complains to ebay and reports ebay seller (TS)

Scammer: hindi na mahanap

Ebay seller: now needs to pay Buyer 2

 

so kung si Buyer 2 at si Scammer ay iisa lang. sino naloko? e di si ebay seller lang.

Yes, pinaiikot yun pera but may gain sa huli.

 

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posted May 2, 2012 01:45PM
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wow, di ko naisip yun..pero nakausap ko naman yung isang buyer over the phone, so hindi siya yun..

at todo ang follow-up kung may balita ako..

pero may point din kayo, pwedeng ganun nga..

wtf?! sheesh :(
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posted May 2, 2012 02:07PM
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yung regarding sa buyer 1 at si scammer pwedeng iisa lang para kumagat si TS sa pain... kung nagstart yung problem sa 2nd 3rd at 4th....
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posted May 2, 2012 02:15PM
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anu bayan bago nanaman modus this is crazy ang dami scam araw araw!


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posted May 2, 2012 02:18PM
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kuyajhun316 posted on May 2, 2012 02:07PM
yung regarding sa buyer 1 at si scammer pwedeng iisa lang para kumagat si TS sa pain... kung nagstart yung problem sa 2nd 3rd at 4th....


yes, eto din po hinala ko e..kasi daw taga davao daw yun, e yung registered ebay add nung buyer is san juan lang..

 

kaso yun nga, naunahan ako ng tiwala dahil nga naman nagdeposit ng pera to keep his end of the deal. di na ako naginvestigate further and ayun na nga, doon nagsimula ang katangahan ko :(

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posted May 2, 2012 02:25PM
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ceranafarms posted on May 2, 2012 01:45PM
wow, di ko naisip yun..pero nakausap ko naman yung isang buyer over the phone, so hindi siya yun..

at todo ang follow-up kung may balita ako..

pero may point din kayo, pwedeng ganun nga..

wtf?! sheesh :(


pwedeng may kasamahan siya mangiscam.. 

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posted May 2, 2012 03:04PM
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now victim #3 threatens to file estafa..oh no what should i do :(
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posted May 2, 2012 03:09PM
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ceranafarms posted on May 2, 2012 03:04PM
now victim #3 threatens to file estafa..oh no what should i do :(


Dapat ikaw na ang magbayad , wala ka ng magagawa naging careless ka kesa naman masira ang pagkatao at magka record ka. I'm kikitain mo naman yang pera, charge mo sa experience yung masamang nangyari sa yo..God Bless

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posted May 2, 2012 03:11PM
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i don't have that kind of money :'(
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posted May 2, 2012 03:21PM
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Mahirap naman kasi yung pinasok mo puro High products pala ang involved dyan. Kung ganun sabihin mo na lang sa kanya na naging victim karin ng scam ng isang taong pinagkatiwalaan na ginamait lang ang network mo. Kung hindi sya maniwala e di ipaglaban mo na lang sa Korte na yan talaga ang nangyari at wala ka naman intension na manloko its so happen na pinagamit mo lang ang name mo at tumanggap ng komisyun. Di ka naman talaga ang tumanggap ng pera. Pero dapat mahuli mo yung scammer pala maniwala sya na scam ka nga.
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posted May 2, 2012 03:32PM
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rocor1 posted on May 2, 2012 03:21PM
Mahirap naman kasi yung pinasok mo puro High products pala ang involved dyan. Kung ganun sabihin mo na lang sa kanya na naging victim karin ng scam ng isang taong pinagkatiwalaan na ginamait lang ang network mo. Kung hindi sya maniwala e di ipaglaban mo na lang sa Korte na yan talaga ang nangyari at wala ka naman intension na manloko its so happen na pinagamit mo lang ang name mo at tumanggap ng komisyun. Di ka naman talaga ang tumanggap ng pera. Pero dapat mahuli mo yung scammer pala maniwala sya na scam ka nga.


kung may natago kang communications - texts, emails.. etc.. na pwedeng maging proweba na victim ka rin.. pero im not fully sure kung totally ma-abswelto ka as accomplish...

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