same sex marriage Philippines

eto po opimion ko.hindi ako pumapayag sa same sex marriage.para sa akin kasi ang kasal ay ginagawa lamang sa
isang babae at lalake na nagmamahalan.di ko saklaw ang damdamin ng lalaki at babae..di naman po yon ang tanong.ang sa akin ang kasal ay isang sagradong bagay na tanging babae at lalake lang ang binabasbasan.

I intend to agree with dappy on the point alone na need nung basbas to get married.

But, I disagree kung ang pinag uusapan is pag ibig.

Kasi kung bible lang pag babasehan natin - then we are all restricted.

I tell you what and why?

Not long ago I am also opposed to this same sex marriage because I have been filled with most like you

the same thoughts from our parents, teh church and the society.

Until I have met and known a Filipino living in australia and his australian male partner where in some states in australia allow the same sex marriage.

 

Nun una, i really detest the idea but not necessarily these couple - meaning them as people.

You now what made me change my mind?

Because I have proven that they love each other so much that to prevent them from being together nor for marrying each other brings us to question our own long and hard stand on the same sex marriage issues?

You know why?

Beacuse here are two very nice people who love each other and want to spend the rest of their lives together till the end

and yet there are normal couples i know who exist and yet who live like hell as married.

Kasal nga sila sa pangalan ng diyos, and yet each one of them commits adultery and bigamy, and each has each own separate love child from their other partner.

So which is far from worse?

I may not give my easy consent on the same sex marriage as shall be provided by the church in which I know it will never happen.

But for any measures I would love to see that the said gay couple be let alone and live the lives they have chosen.

 I don't want to go against what the church wants and wishes

but at least let us give  these people a chance to be happy with what they truly feel to do and to be to be happy.

wala naman akong magagawa kung gusto nilang magsama buhay nila yon..pero wag na silang umasa na papayagan na maikasal sila..so much for this discrimination thing..alam naman nila na hindi pwede.ang discrimination eh yung isang bakla na gustong magsundalo di pinayagan kasi bakla siya..yon ang discrimination..

Hindi ko naman sinabi "discrimination"

dahil sa tutuo lang pag ang church di ba alang discrimination na involved dahil iisa lang ang dictum and that is "forbidden"

And I didnt say na super agree ako sa same sex marriage

ang sa akin lang if there is a chance since we are now slowly accepting the same sex relationship

eh bakit di na lang natin sila hayaan magpakasal kung gusto nila. tutal buhay din naman nila yun.

Kung ayaw ng church eh ala tayo magagawa and ala din ako magagawa.

di kasi pwede na hayaan na lang..baka dumating ang panahon tao at hayop naman ang gustong magpakasal.

dappy, i wouldn't take that as a form of supportive to what we have been discussing here.

because it will never happen. Man-animal?

sige granted consider natin yan point mo.

do you think pag ikakasala ko sa tigre, pag tinanong sya nun pari or officiating person

sa tingin mo makakasagot yun tigre?

marriage should still be for two people - who can be responsible for their feelings.

yung mga matatanda ngayon aakalain ba nila na ang dalawang lalaki o dalawang babae eh magpapakasal sa simbahan?
hindi ako galit sa bakla at di ko sila pinipigilang magmahal kasi karapatan nila yon..pero wag na silang
magpumilit na magpakasal sa mata ng tao at sa mata ng Diyos kasi mali po yon at kahit kelan di magiging tama.

Just leave them alone.
Kung saan sila masaya, hayaan nyo sila as long as wala silang nasasaktan na ibang tao.


Message appended on May 26, 2012 08:23PM

I find this o.a.

It only shows na malikot ang isip niya........ no wonder why.

No Offense Meant.

actually, i rather agree with you than disagree.

but dappy, darating ang araw talaga this thing shall happen.

kasi nangyayari na ya sa ibang bansa.

Believe me, if I could make things happen "I won't allow it"

but the fact is it will - given a  long time to come.

I know how you feel.

 

Are we at peace with each other?

healthy naman po ang arguments..lalo akong may nalalaman sa taong kausap ko.
para po malinaw..ang mga third sex po ay tanggap ng lipunan..at di sila pinagbabawalan ng kahit na anong religious group na sumamba..sila po ay mahal natin at di dapat hinuhusgahan.

Sige, dappy I promise, pag dumatingyun yung araw na yun at sakali buhay pa tayo

i'll be sitting beside you to help you calm yourself

and explain to you kung bakit nangyari to.. nangyari yun..

deal?

Pwede ba minsan tayung mga pilipino magPreno naman tayo sa mga decision making natin. . . naalala ko tuloy si Mideo cruz eew

Marraige defined: A union between a MAN and a WOMAN.  Make your own conclusion po.

Title I. Marriage

Chapter 1. Requisites of Marriage

Article 1. Marriage is a special contract of permanent union between a man and a woman entered into in accordance with law for the establishment of conjugal and family life. It is the foundation of the family and an inviolable social institution whose nature, consequences, and incidents are governed by law and not subject to stipulation, except that marriage settlements may fix the property relations during the marriage within the limits provided by this Code. (52a)

Source: Philippine Constitution

ganyan po talaga
pasama ng pasama ang mundo

darating at darating talaga yan

Revelation 22:11
Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; let him who does right continue to do right; and let him who is holy continue to be holy."

12"Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done.

Hi klenz, well you say no offense meant but you already brought the wall down by the statement.

Lahat naman tayo is malikot ang isip. But isn't that where genious like Einstein, Faraday, Planc, and Edison come from.

She only used that in what she sees as necessary to support her premises. There's no need to put one person down if you find that his/her logic is unsubstantial for your very own standards. You could have in fact just said "I find this o.a.," and it should be fine but, to add something like  "...no wonder why," is a form of allusion in the subjective form and bring about a different whole perspective to what you have, in the first place, tried to avoid in that statement you've just said.

I agree that we sometimes disagree.

But, while we do so, we can no doubt still respect one's opinion.

 

Peace.

 

 

With all due respect to you po, I think you practice the skillful art of "double talking".  Fence sitting does not really help people like me and readers in this forum know your true convictions. Have a great day!

@klenz, You don't have to use such words or call names and everything.. topic kasi ito so natural lang na may debate. ang debate kasi ay usapan yan ng mga educadong tao na hindi kailangang gumamit pa ng mga salita na napupulot sa bangketa.

Your say to this topic is to just leave the homosexuals alone, right? it's your opinion, we respect it, why is it hard for you to do the same for others?

Okay, let's bring this point for point, so just as to make it  clear.

Is this what you were referring to with such term as double talk in my inability to make a stand?

Haven't I said clearly anywhere from my post that  at first I disagree to same sex marriage until I've met a couple who have helped me changed my mind so that now I intend to agree with the same sex marriage but not totally agree right away? I think there's a very thin line difference in there, but any line is still a line.

I may not give my easy consent on the same sex marriage as shall be provided by the church in which I know it will never happen.

But for any measures I would love to see that the said gay couple be let alone and live the lives they have chosen.

I don't want to go against what the church wants and wishes

but at least let us give  these people a chance to be happy with what they truly feel to do and to be to be happy.

My stand is simple and there's no fence to sit in -

if they allow the same sex marriage here then I have nothing against it by this I mean I am all for it.

But, if they won't allow it as yet or at any given time  - then let us leave the gay people alone because like us straight people they, too, deserve a chance to be happy with what they are and what they want to be.

 

At first, gay marriage issue hasn't been worth my time to think about but I find Abs personal views an interesting one. As I've read beetween his words.. I know his stand.

You said, "I dont' want to go against what the church wants and wishes" on the other hand, "if they allow the same sex marriage here (meaning the government?) then I have nothing against it by this I am all for it."  In your last statement, did you just oppose the church by being "all for it"? Your statements are diametric and they really confuse me a lot!