Sino si Yahweh/Jehovah, Si Hesus o ang Ama? Philippines

for me

Yahweh the Father
Yahweh the Son
Yahweh the Holy Spirit

for these three are One God....yet distinct from each other

Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:19

more witness please..

that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established....

Yahweh ( / j we / or / j hwe /; Hebrew: ), often rendered Jehovah /d ho v / or the LORD (in small capitals), is the god of Israel in the Hebrew Bible. Yahweh is a modern scholarly vocalization of the name as it appears in Hebrew, where it is written without vowels as (YHWH), called the Tetragrammaton. - Wikipedia.

maraming sekta ang nagpumilit lagyan ng baybay ang orihinal na letrang sulat ng Pangalan ng Diyos... subalit sa pagkakaalam ko, bawal itong bigkasin. at ang pagkabasa neto ngayon ay tiyak kong hindi yun ang tamang bigkas dito...

Tama ka naman na yun ay YHWH......Para mas magaan sa atin ipagpalagay na natin na bigkasin ng Yahweh o Jehovah para doon sa topic.

Para matukoy kung sino ba si YHWH/Yahweh/Jehovah, ang Ama o si Hesus?

 

Kaylan man kahit na sa kasaysayan o sa kasulatan ay hindi nakikipag ugnayan ng diretso o nakikipag usap ang Ama kundi sa Pamamagitan ni Hesus...

Pero ang Yahweh sa OT ay nakikipag usap sa ating mga magulang noong unang panahon....Ngayon sino kaya itong Yahweh na ito?

Please Read carefully the note from Bible

Luke 1:30, 31 So the angel said to her: Have no fear, Mary, for you have found favor with God; 31 and, look! you will conceive in your womb and give birth to a son, and you are to call his name Jesus. 32 This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High;..."

Explanation: Jesus Called the angel as the Son of MOst High

Psalms 83:18 That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,
You alone are the Most High over all the earth.

Explanation: Jehovah God is the Most high


Jesus christ is one of the creation of God, First Born of all creation..

Read: Colossians 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. 17 Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist, 18 and he is the head of the body, the congregation. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that he might become the one who is first in all things;


So, MAgkaiba ang Diyos Ama at si Jesu-Kristo. And when Jesus was here in Earth He is praying to his Father (Mateo6:9, John 17:1)


Message appended on June 5, 2012 12:55PM

pLease read the reference at  http://www.watchtower.org/e/bh/appendix_01.htm Regarding God's Name

 

Read this reference answer who is Jesus Christ http://www.watchtower.org/e/bh/article_04.htm

And He is Before All Things, and by Him All Things Consist. And He is the Head Of The Body, The Church: Who is the beginning, the firstborn form the dead, that in All Things He Might Have The Preeminence. For it pleased the Father that IN HIM SHOULD ALL FULLNESS DWELL. And having made peace through the blood of His cross, by Him to RECONCILE ALL UNTO HIMSELF; by Him, I say, whether in earth or in heaven" (Col. 1:12:20).

"I am Alpha and Omega, the BEGINNING and the ENDING, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, THE ALMIGHTY" (Rev. 1:8).

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All Things Were Made By Him: and without Him was not any thing made that was made. In Him Was Life; and the life was the light of men" (John 1:1-3).

"Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham WAS, I AM" (John 8:58). "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and He said, Thus shall thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me to you" (Ex. 3:14).

Jesus Christ was the GOD of the Old Testament! Jesus Christ was JEHOVAH! Moses SAW and HEARD Jehovah, yet John tells us that,

"No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, He Has Declared Him" (John :18).

"And the Father Himself, which hath sent me, has born witness of Me. Ye have neither HEARD HIS VOICE at any time, NOR SEEN HIS SHAPE" (John 5:37).

Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom [be] honour and power everlasting. Amen.1Ti 6:16

"For the Father judges no man, but has committed All Judgment Unto The Son" (John 5:22).

"And Jesus came and spoke unto them, saying, All Power Is Given Unto Me In Heaven And In Earth" (Matt. 28:18).

oo, kapatid... si yaweh/jehova ay si jesus din.. sapagkat sila ay iisa..

natutuwa ako dahil isa ka sa binigyan ng tamang pag-unawa!

dun tayo sa tunay na turo.. biblical..... mapalad ang nakakaunawa sa tamang unawa

Kung ang Panginoong Jesucristo ay isang tunay na Dios...ibig sabihin po ba ay nalalaman niya ang lahat ng bagay or walang bagay siyang di nalalaman. Tama po ba ako?

Kailangan ni Hesus ang Ispiritu ng Dios habang nasa katawang tao Siya. Hindi Siya nagkakasala dahil ang Ispiritu ng Dios (Ama) ay lagi ng sumasakanya (Hesus). The Son can do nothing. Lahat ng ginagawa Niya ay subject sa Ama.

 

Ngayon, nang maibalik na ang dating glory ni Hesus na dati ng sa Kanya, sa tingin mo kaya hindi Niya alam ang lahat.

 

 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Mat 28:18

Kailan ba naibalik ang glory ng Panginoong Jesucristo sa kanya? Noong mabuhay syang magmuli or noong makaakyat na sya muli sa langit?

 

But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. 1Pe 4:13

That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: 1Pe 1:7

Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.Act 1:11

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.Mat 24:30

For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Mat 16:27

Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they [also] which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, AmenRev 1:7

 

Sa aking pang-unawa naibigay sa Kanya nuong makaakyat na muli Siya sa Langit ayon na rin sa pagkaintindi ko sa sitas.

 

 

Sa akin namang pagkaunawa sa mga sitas na naibigay mo ay di pa nabibigay sa kanya ang glory. Pag sinugo pa lang siyang muli pabalik sa lupa saka palang siya mahahayag. Pansinin mo ang word na SHALL na maraming beses ginamit meaning in the future pa.

 

You said: Ngayon, nang maibalik na ang dating glory ni Hesus na dati ng sa Kanya, sa tingin mo kaya hindi Niya alam ang lahat.

Sa pahayag mong ito... Maaari na palang mawala sa Dios ang Kanyang glory at may time pala na di alam ng Dios ang lahat ng bagay. Nagpapatunay ito na di talaga Dios ang Panginoong Jesucristo kundi ang Ama lamang na kayang magbigay ng glory sa kanya.

But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, Act 7:55

And they stoned Stephen, calling upon [God], and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. Act 7:59

 

Ano naman ang patunay mong di Dios si Hesus?

Sino naman ang may sabi sa iyo na may time na di alam ng Dios ang lahat ng bagay?

Saan naman masasabi na maaari palang mawala sa Dios ang Kanyang glory?

Kung hindi pa binabalik kay Hesus ang dati Niyang glorya ibig bang sabihin binabawi na rin ng Dios ang pagka Dios ni Hesus? Sitas magbigay ka ng dalawa o mahigit.

 

 

 

Another nice thread to follow everyday 

Salamat. Stay tuned ka lang kaibigan.

Message appended on October 10, 2012 09:26AM
Kaibigang Gemorat... sana mamaya pagpasok ko ay may kasagutan ka na o reply sa argumento ko. Salamat.

 

Message appended on October 10, 2012 03:01PM

Kapatid huwebes at biernes ay day off namin kaya kung di kita masagot dyan ay pasensya na lang. Thanks!

You said:

1Juan 5:20 At nalalaman natin na naparito ang Anak ng Dios, at tayo'y binigyan ng pagkaunawa, upang ating makilala siya na totoo, at tayo'y nasa kaniya na totoo, sa makatuwid ay sa kaniyang Anak na si Jesucristo. Ito ang tunay na Dios, at ang buhay na walang hanggan.

Sinabi na sa Sitas na Dios si Jesucristo. Huwag mo ng pilitin pang baguhin yan. Wala kang k na baguhin kung anu man ang nakasulat.

²⁰ We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know Him who is true. And we are in Him who is true by being in His Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

Mali ang pagkaunawa mo sa talata. Di sinasabi dito na Dios ang Panginoong Jesucristo. Pag-aralan natin.

²⁰ We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know Him who is true. And we are in Him who is true by being in His Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

Ngayon irereplace ko ang mga highlighted words.

²⁰ We know also that the Jesus Christ has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know Father who is true. And we are in Father who is true by being in Father's Son Jesus Christ. Father is the true God and eternal life.

Sino ang tinutukoy na true sa unang sentence? Malinaw na ang Father. Inulit pa sa 2nd sentence. Kaya maging sa 3rd sentence ay di mababago yon. Paano tayo nakatiyak na Father ang tinutukoy doon? Malinaw ang pagkabanggit sa katauhan ng Panginoong Jesucristo. Ano ito? Father's Son. Iyon nga ang binabanggit na understanding na ibibigay sa atin e. so that we may know Him who is true. Para makilala natin kung sino ang totoo. Mapapasa Dios lamang tayo if mapapakay Jesucristo tayo. At ang paggamit sa name ni Jesus ay as object of the predicate but ang pinaguusapan talaga d2 na true ay ang word na Him o ang Dios o ang Father.

Nawa ay buksan mo ang iyong pang-unawa. Malalabag ang katotohanan na iisa ang Dios pag ginawa mo pang Dios ang Panginoong Jesucristo.