| posted August 18, 2012 01:48AM |
LorenzoH2O Sulitizen-to-be 17 posts - Registered: Dec 3, 2008
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| Yeah! You're right bro, maybe they are hiding something...either do I, I don't understand why they are doing that kind of non-sense thing. 1 member thinks this post is SULIT! authenticshoes4less |
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| posted August 18, 2012 05:19AM |
authenticshoes4less Sulitizen-to-be 6 posts | Iba talaga minsan ang pinoy mag-isip...... if I really want to sell it I will not hide anything. You posted photos of the interior and exterior but why you need to hide the plate number?! Not unless if the vehicle is not yours or there's something wrong...... Car buyers need to verify the legality of the registration before transacting or dealing with you so why you need to hide it.
For those buyers I have no idea if this still valid or the LTO change it... to verify the registration of the vehicle you just need to send LTO VEHICLE ABC123 and send it to 2600, where ABC123 is the plate number of the vehicle. I always use this if I want to buy a pre-owned vehicle just to make sure it is not on the TMG HOT list. |
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| posted August 18, 2012 04:34PM |
hombre Elite Sulitizen 597 posts - Registered: May 25, 2008
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| some said its for security and privacy that's why they covered their plates. another reason is that some cars are being sold by multiple agents with different price tags. to avoid being labelled as a pricey vendor for placing a higher tag online than the rest, they tend to cover it. |
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| posted August 18, 2012 05:51PM |
authenticshoes4less Sulitizen-to-be 6 posts | some said its for security and privacy that's why they covered their plates. another reason is that some cars are being sold by multiple agents with different price tags. to avoid being labelled as a pricey vendor for placing a higher tag online than the rest, they tend to cover it. but as a buyer how they can be sure that the car is legal..... do you think if i will inquire and i will ask for the plate number just to verify in LTO, they will give it? and besides the original seller contact number is posted to verify if the car is his/her. still for me its a non-sense because when they go out for sure they will not cover the plate numbers. anyways, i respect them.... my only point here it is difficult sometimes to transact if they hide it and in sulit there's a policy of copying ads to avoid multiple sellers/agents. @hombre..... thanks bro! |
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| posted August 18, 2012 08:36PM |
SimplyRoses Sulitizen-to-be 6 posts - Registered: Jul 6, 2012
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| i think i can provide a very simple answer to that. "Because Buy and Sell Agents and Financing Persons are Hiding the very obvious thing that is distinguishable sa car, which is Plate Numbers. Its like that buy a car, tell that person na they are not buy and sell, and then the real owner sell it. So pag may nakakitang kaibigan ung previous owner sa sulit at sinabing, "pare nakita ko ung kotse mo binebenta mo pla sa sulit.com?". And the real owner would say, "taena sabi ko na nga ba buy and sell yung hayop na un eh." And that would make the buy and sell guy look really bad, dba? Its "sometimes" not a matter of security nung real owner, but nung BUY AND SELL na tao.
Message appended on August 18, 2012 08:41PM In most cases din, the real owner knows ung matinding sakit ng kotse nya. Example, "flooded". So alam nyang 100% na flooded kotse nya kaya nya binenta ung kotse nya ng mura. NOW, si buy and sell inayos ung kotse from the old owner. Ngayon ipapaliabas ni buy and sell na the car is ALL GOOD. Cyempre, ung mga nakaka alam na FLOODED ung sasakyan, the only way they can tell its flooded is through the plate number. Kasi maraming magkakamukhang sasakyan dba? Pero never has the same plate number. So to HIDE THE EVIDENCE, they HIDE the plate number para pag may nakakitang nakaka alam na flooded yun, ndi ma OOBVIOUS. Makakalusot si buy and sell. View message logs SimplyRoses: appended post on August 18, 2012 08:41PM |
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| posted August 18, 2012 08:50PM |
authenticshoes4less Sulitizen-to-be 6 posts | in that case the reason why they want to hide the plate numbers is that there's something wrong with the vehicles.... anyways, its up to the buyers! |
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| posted September 26, 2012 04:28AM |
HARDRIVE Majestic Sulitizen 10981 posts - Registered: Jul 29, 2009
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| Hahahaha i find this thread funny
So what if the plate is covered Youll get to see the plate when you buy the car Youll see it or not doesnt bother me You want to buy a car with ppeace of mind go to a car dealer |
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| posted September 26, 2012 11:23AM |
milesallen Sulitizen 54 posts - Registered: Feb 3, 2012
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| If you're aware guys, meron pong sindikato na tinatawag na KAMBAL Plaka (carnapped vehicles with the same year/model as the legal ones eh kokopyahin nila plaka mo) kung ipo-post mo yun for sale na vehicle mo exposing the plate number eh you're giving them easy time to acquire legal plate numbers for the KAMBAL Plaka modus. These organized-syndicates are using the internet specifically vehicles for sale section to scan their target vechiles to acquire license plate number specially high-end vehicles or depending on the syndicate's flavor of the month because it is a lot more easier and convenient to do aside from roaming/orbitting public parking spaces like malls and the likes, etc. And yes, covering the plate number of a vehicle in for sale ads is a security concern mga sirs and NOT a NON-SENSE, ang laking abala nyan mga sir kung nakambal plaka auto nyo mga sirs. And again, yes mga sir, makikita mo nman plaka once you get to see the vehicle and have it verified. Why would you like to verify it first rather than to see the vehicle first na nakita mo pa lang sa internet ads? For me, last concern ko na yun mag verify sa LTO and PNP-TMG ng papeles ng auto pag nakita ko na physically at na test-drive ko na yun auto na gusto ko ng bilhin at decided nko, because in doing so, you will need to ask the owner's permission including xerox copy of OR/CR and authorization letter from him to scrutinize the vehicle's docs in LTO, do not rely on the Text to LTO 2600, its not that reliable mga sir (me and my friend used that facility on his' 2010 montero and the reply was "no record found", but there's nothing wrong with his vehicle, and another one, a vehicle used in a bank robbery that was impounded for more than a month in a police station when we texted the plate number to 2600, the reply was exact and correct as per the vehicle's description, but would you believe the text message says no "apprehensions and alarms"?), iba pa rin yun pupunta ka mismo sa LTO office kung san originally nka register yun auto dahil dun mo makikita ang original file ng auto and the records officer there at the LTO wil attest whether the xerox copy you showed them is true and original entry from the original file or not, after that, go to nearest TMG office, give the OR/CR xerox copy you acquired from the owner and have it run sa computer nila for alarms and they will stamped "verified with no alarms" sa OR/CR na xerox mo, and don't forget to give the TMG personnel P150.00 and that's it . (just sharing my personal procedure and nothing personal to others) And also, I have friend who's other friend from the same subdivision as I am bought a 2002 pajero local last year, relied on the 2600 text facility, after quite sometime went to TMG in Pasig for clearance and macro-etching dahil i-transfer of ownership na nya, ayun in-impound pajero nya on the-spot kinasuhan pa sya ng carnapping ng TMG, upto now on-going pa rin kaso nya. Wag na wag po kyong bibili ng 2nd hand auto na text to LTO 2600 lng ang gagawin nyo, its a tedious process like what I say, but will be a rewarding and headache-free process, promise! Hindi po kwentong-kutchero ang mga ito sirs. Im not saying na totally 100% unreliable yun LTO 2600 at hindi po ako nagdudunung-dunungan, If you think the system that you're relying on is good for you or has done good to you, then so be it, again, this is just my own personal procedure that I consider 100% good for the past 10 years. Hope this helps... View message logs milesallen: updated on September 26, 2012 02:39PM milesallen: updated on September 26, 2012 02:31PM milesallen: updated on September 26, 2012 02:15PM milesallen: updated on September 26, 2012 02:09PM milesallen: updated on September 26, 2012 02:07PM milesallen: updated on September 26, 2012 01:56PM milesallen: updated on September 26, 2012 01:41PM milesallen: updated on September 26, 2012 12:39PM milesallen: updated on September 26, 2012 11:49AM |
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| posted September 26, 2012 05:43PM |
authenticshoes4less Sulitizen-to-be 6 posts | @HARDRIVE what is funny about the topic? this is a concern that needs a clear answer! ang babaw mo naman bro kung pati ito natawa ka......ako ang mas natawa sayo. HAHAHAHA!!!! dont want to start an argument with you wala ko sa pinas talo ko, bad trip lang comment.... pasensya bro.
@milesallen agree with you for security reason but for the kambal plaka sir dali naman po malaman who really owns the plate.... kahit sabihin pa natin na TMG ka at may kambal plaka they will release you for sure kase they will know right away and identify who owns the plate. i personally saw this kind of incident sa LTO las pinas about the kambal plaka of a an owner type jeep which happen to be the plate of altis 2004 model. the real plate is belong to the owner type jeep and the altis they confirm it as a carjack vehicle.
hide it or not it depends with the seller and the buyer. i am not arguing mga sir just want a clear answer? the topic posted is for others to know what is the reason why you need to hide the plate.
thanks @milesallen, appreciate your comments very well said. |
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| posted September 26, 2012 05:48PM |
milesallen Sulitizen 54 posts - Registered: Feb 3, 2012
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| Thanks so much for the appreciation sir, have a nice day sir Message appended on September 26, 2012 06:11PMBy the way sir, the modus that I am referring to with regards to the "Kambal-Plaka" is the other way around. The one that you said is like the case of Former CJ Corona, wherein the Suburban he used has identical plate with the one in Cebu that is a Mits. L-300 FB, which is a clear sign of 'copying' only legal plates issued. The other modus that im trying to explain here is the modus of a notorious syndicate wherein the vehicles that they carnapped, say example a white montero, they will search for the same color, make and type of the vehicle in public parking spaces or even in the internet "for sale ads" so that their carnapped vehicle would appear identical and legal. With this, they can sell the vehicle 'legally' off course with the connivance of their contacts in the LTO to produce 'legal' documentations for the carnapped vehicle. WORSE, the carnapped vehicle with the Kambal-plaka will be used in their criminal activities. This is why I said "ang laking perwisyo po pag na kambal plaka ka kc yun gumawa ng krimen na kapareha mo ng auto at plaka eh ia-alarma, ngayon pano po magpapaliwanag pag na sita ang auto mo". So, why give this criminal elements an easy way of copying legally issued plates over the net? Off course there's nothing that we can do if they want to pursue their criminal acts, but by way of non-exposure of license plate numbers over the internet ads will at least lessen their prospect and at the same time, security for the legal owner. Thank you sir. View message logs milesallen: appended post on September 26, 2012 06:11PM |
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| posted September 26, 2012 08:28PM |
Junycz Elite Sulitizen 446 posts | pagka ex taxi madaling ma check sa plate no, kaya tinatakpan nila or baka may problem yung papers kaya ayaw nilang i display yung plaka.. |
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| posted September 26, 2012 08:33PM |
mahdy Elite Sulitizen 770 posts | hiding a plate is for sense of privacy and should not be taken as threat or something negative, masyado lang tayong mapagisip kung ganun. 2 members think this post is SULIT! milesallen, kargador |
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| posted September 26, 2012 08:39PM |
misstisay Majestic Sulitizen 6715 posts | hi sulitizens! isa rin ako sa mga nagbebenta ng cars dito, at hindi ko talaga pinakikita yung plate number for privacy and security purposes. malay natin, may mga lurkers pala dito na nag-observe at kopyahin kung anong meron sa ads.
although yung isang ad, wala pang pictures, rest assured that the papers are clean and legal. 1 member thinks this post is SULIT! milesallen |
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| posted September 26, 2012 09:02PM |
jfdvrooooom Elite Sulitizen 539 posts - Registered: Aug 26, 2010
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| I totally agree with hard drive. Ang totoong bumibili ng kotse eh 2nd priority na lang po ang plate number.
it's already my fourth time na bumili ng 2nd hand car sa internet and covering their plate number never really bothered me dahil ang una kong titignan is pasok ba siya sa budget ko. If the answer is yes, type ko ba itong kotse na ito... if the answer is yes again then that is the time I will contact the seller.
Meet up and check the quality of that 2nd hand car, katok-katok kung may masilya... check ang makina... tawaran portion and if done deal then that's the time I will check the papers if it is clean. |
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| posted September 26, 2012 09:07PM |
AffordAnyCar Sulitizen-to-be 4 posts - Registered: Sep 22, 2012
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| I have nothing against hiding car plates, just like what milesallen said, hindi talaga reliable yung text ng LTO. It's best to verify the car yourself. Unfortunately for our country, we don't have those agencies na nag momonitor and nag reregulate and most of all nag seset ng standards pagdating sa second hand car sales, kahit hindi safe na sasakyan nabebenta parin! It's a sad reality we all have to live by.
Di rin natin maalis yung duda, kasi maraming manloloko talaga kahit san ka mag punta. Ako personally when I sold my car here, I only show the first letter and the last number, and honestly I didn't know why I did that, I guess feeling ko lang at risk yung safety ko for some unknown reason.
But now, I don't really care sa plates kahit exposed, kasi it's my business now, yung kasing dati is my personal car talaga which I use everyday, so parang ayaw ko lang ma tag.
:) ayun share ko lang mga ka - sulit |
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| posted October 1, 2012 04:13PM |
HARDRIVE Majestic Sulitizen 10981 posts - Registered: Jul 29, 2009
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| Sa akin it doesnt bother me talaga yong plates eh
Share share lang ot Bakit pag bumibili ako ng sasakyan diko talaga plano bumili Basta napadaan lang ako doon tapos pag meron ako nakita babalikan ko Maya maya bumibili na ako hahaha |
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| posted October 2, 2012 11:46AM |
xxdemonikaxx Ultimate Sulitizen 2347 posts | napaka impulse buyer mo pala sir hardrive :)) :)) View message logs xxdemonikaxx: updated on October 2, 2012 11:46AM |
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| posted October 2, 2012 12:22PM |
HARDRIVE Majestic Sulitizen 10981 posts - Registered: Jul 29, 2009
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| Ewan ko ba basta ganon lang sa akn bumili ng sasakyan eh Sa lahat ng sasakyan na nabili ko toyota ayaw ko Dimo agad maiuwi sasakyan sus mag hintay ka pa check nila lahat bago maiuwi mo 1 member thinks this post is SULIT! kargador |
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